reb78 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I am about to bite the bullet and buy a new chassis. XD seems to get the best current reviews - they do OEM and Heavy Duty https://www.xdchassis.co.uk/ When would you need a heavy duty chassis? Why buy one over the OEM style? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan bomber Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I think it comes down to if you want to lug the extra weight around and not a lot else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 Haha. So no real point! That is the conclusion I kept coming to. One thing (and I cant be sure as I only saw it on one website) was that prices in some places, for the XD HD chassis, were cheaper for the HD version. I suspect that was not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 only has 3mm thick steel instead of the normal 2.5mm. still prefer my Marsland chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, western said: only has 3mm thick steel instead of the normal 2.5mm. still prefer my Marsland chassis. Whys that though Ralph? I have seen the XD ones and they look perfectly functional, correct crossmember for year and fair bit cheaper than Marsland. A local place that changes chassis near me have used Marsland, Richards, Sheilder and XD. They reccomended XD - I was just chatting to them they werent trying to make a sale. They said Sheilder were not good, Richards variable and Marsland expensive. Edited November 11, 2020 by reb78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Just prefer the Marsland construction, I don't care if the rear crossmember is original or later Td5 style, mine is Td5 style, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandtwo Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I’ve had 10 or so Richards, my fathers 61 plate 90 is on a Marsland (not out of choice). I might give XD a go depending on delivery options next, my brother has just presented my original 300tdi 90 back to me with an MOT fail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Aren’t the Marsland chassis genuine GKN units stripped and galvanised? Maybe the current stock weren’t made by GKN, but by Marsland with the GKN tooling, but either way, they are correct spec and detailing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I got a GKN declaration of conformity certificate with my Marsland chassis a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) Marsland told me that they buy them from GKN and then modify as requested to allow 300 TDi mounts, metal fuel tank or V8 variants. They only ever manufactured the Series chassis and for Series 3 that was eventually using the original jigs when LR offered them. I don’t know why or exactly when they stopped doing that. Edited November 12, 2020 by Peaklander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 They stopped doing 109s in around 2004 or 2005 - I have one of their last, and it was misjigged - the dumb iron spring bolt locations were different from side to side, the rear spring mini-outriggers for the rear shackles are 1/2” different, the engine mounts and gear box cross member are around 1.5-2” aft of where they should be (and they galvanised the chassis with the cross member fitted, so the bolts are welded in place), and the tub floor support hoops were incorrectly positioned so the front end of the tub was 2” high on the left and 2.5 on the right. Trust me, you don’t want anything Marsland made themselves, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) How odd. I bought an 88” chassis directly from them roughly ten years ago and was very happy with it. Edited November 12, 2020 by Peaklander Added pic to make things happy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, Peaklander said: How odd. I bought an 88” chassis directly from them roughly ten years ago and was very happy with it. Very nice - I always liked that colour combo on the series vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Snagger said: Aren’t the Marsland chassis genuine GKN units stripped and galvanised? Maybe the current stock weren’t made by GKN, but by Marsland with the GKN tooling, but either way, they are correct spec and detailing. But does this make them 'better' than the alternatives? There must be hundreds (thousands?) of alternatives from the likes of Richards being driven around out there without problems. The XD website seems to suggest they use GKN main rails and build the rest around them, Richards rails are welded on all corners (doing away with the two C sections of the original design)... As long as they are well welded, holes in the right place and square then what makes one better than another in chassis terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 I think you will find that the Serie2 and 2A chassis were 4 plates welded at the corners; the two C section welded top and bottom were a later development. Quote As long as they are well welded, holes in the right place and square then what makes one better than another in chassis terms? You cannot rely on all those aspects being covered all the time, by any manufacturer. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Peaklander said: How odd. I bought an 88” chassis directly from them roughly ten years ago and was very happy with it. Perhaps they hadn’t broken the 88” jig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 12, 2020 Author Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, David Sparkes said: I think you will find that the Serie2 and 2A chassis were 4 plates welded at the corners; the two C section welded top and bottom were a later development. You cannot rely on all those aspects being covered all the time, by any manufacturer. Regards. I don't really understand your point... so don't buy a new chassis from anyone? I should have been more specific about the C section comment - It was in reference to the defender chassis. I am not sure why the thread is talking about series chassis now... Edited November 12, 2020 by reb78 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Having a genuine replacement non galvanised chassis on the 90 for 10 years now and been happy with it in all respects I'd get the same again but galved next time so I suppose I would go with Marsland. Not that I need a new chassis mind ! Thank God because they are all fearsomely expensive now ! Mo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 For what it is worth my declaration of conformity was actually a declaration of authenticity! Toby STATEMENT FOR DEFENDER GKN SIGNED EMAIL 2015.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I didn't get one of those when I bought my gkn chassis from Marsland 7 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 You get one if you ask. I just wanted everything in order and have it all on file in case I got asked about the chassis change at any time. It also helped when the installer claimed the chassis was out of spec until I found out he was measuring it with a wooden ruler!!! Turns out the chassis is spot on and now know the installer was a complete dipstick. It took me ages to fix his other cock ups! Toby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 There wasn't any info on the website about the certificate when I bought my chassis back in 2013, I've got the invoice & haven't been asked about proving where the chassis came from by anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reb78 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 Maybe yours isnt 'authentic' Ralph 😱😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 It is I collected in myself, so I know exactly where it came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landrovernuts Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Same here Ralph - I drove up and picked it up. I have never been asked either and I even took the old chassis leg with the number on for the first MOT after if had been fitted. Toby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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