smo Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Just been reading about these on priate4x4 http://www.pirate4x4.com/articles/tech/billavista/PR-TSLs and they seem to be a very capable all round tyre, good on mud/rock/everything! and very tough too. So, can you get them in the UK, and has anyone got any opinions of these against tyres like the Simex ET's or ET2's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 There was quite an in depth tyre discussion on the Devon 4x4 forum not too long ago, and while not relating specifically to TSL's it does include many opinions of simex vs anything else and may prove some worth to you. Thread here. The general consensus was that ET's are the best for the UK but that they were a bit small Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 I read that when it was going on Lewis.... Just wondered though, people in the UK seem very narrow minded in their approach to things on the whole and somthing like a SS TSL could be what we are really looking for....or possibly not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I use SS TSL LTB (34x10.50) and have found them to be excellent. Not too easy to get in the UK as there is only one importer, but they are not a particularly expensive tyre when compared to other makes in similar sizes. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Ian - can you share where you get them from in the UK please, PM if nessecary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I dont mean to be promoting Devon 4x4 , but just found another thread on their forum relating to these tyres, this guy wants to replace his Interco's with simex style patterns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 L A Super trux………….. The LTB, http://www.supertrux.com/acatalog/Super_Swamper_LTB.html All SS Tyres, http://www.supertrux.com/acatalog/American_Tyres.html The main index http://www.supertrux.com/acatalog/index.html Delivery is about 45 days as they get them to order. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I read that when it was going on Lewis....Just wondered though, people in the UK seem very narrow minded in their approach to things on the whole and somthing like a SS TSL could be what we are really looking for....or possibly not! I have Simex copies (Insa Turbo Special Track) and they are not very good on very soft ground like we have here. Climb well, but the savage shoulder lugs cut in to soft peaty ground making you sink more than less aggressive tyres, and I find I'm having "errrrrrm" moments on stuff I used to toddle across with no problem on BFGs. Which is what I will be getting again next time around... SSwampers would probably be great but too expensive here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoDino Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I have used both Simex and Interco in the following sizes (in Lebanon where all where "DOT" - our government is not concerned about tires at this moment...): 32x10.5 Interco TSL Radial (do not recommend) 34x10.5 Simex JT (loved them, too small for me, changed them after 2 weeks for...) 35x10.5 Simex ET (loved them, carp on rocks and snow, and too short for what I wanted to run eventually) 36x13.5 Interco Irok Bias (great all round tire, never let me down in mud) 42x14.0 Interco Irok Bias (love them, currently on, great all round, air pressure management needed for mud use) All in all, if you are mostly in mud as I see in the UK, and are comfortable with 35" tires, I would recommend Simex ETs - best by far. If you want something bigger in size and more terrain coverage, nothing beats the IROKs... FWIW, I'm working on a new buggy here in the US and will be going with 42" IROKs as well. Nadim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Boggers - love em to death, but then 47 x 18's will fit the new toy........... hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 smo, tyres will always be a big debate, especially the so call 'extreme' tyres ('mud terrains' plus). I've run both Simex JT and ETs and they are very good in mud as they're narrow and aggressive so cut down well. However, if there isn't a solid base just below you you're in trouble with Simex! Sand, bog and loose soil performance isn't great as you just dig. They're also OK on rock. Appart from TSLs, I'd think about IROKs as I've heard good things from Dino and Bathtub Pete. Boggers have a good reputation too. I've got a simerlar problem at the moment. Simex (better the devil you know although they're small?), BFG Krawlers (a bit carp in mud so they're unlikely to win out), IROKs (good allround but will I loose out too much in mud?) or Boggers (awsome in mud and the likely choice at the moment). FYI, for some of the larger sizes Devon 4x4 has some good prices on interco tyres at the moment (like 5 x 37" boggers for under £1k!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Excellent, cheers for the info guys. Sadly i wrote my 90 off yesterday so will have to wait and see what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Oops, whatcha do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Sadly i wrote my 90 off yesterday so will have to wait and see what happens! Bit of a cliff hanger of a line that one. Hope you're ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Funny really Simex are nothing speaical here. But SS are what everyone uses and are definatley the prefered weapon of choice. The feeling you get is the really don't like Simex. I think it could also be that simex tyres are too small for most of the trucks. 36" is not a big tyre here. Went out with a couple of rangies who had 38" and 40 " tyes on their trucks. Even a Disco 2 had 36" tryers I mean correct me if i am wrong but they only do space saver tyres sizes compaired to SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPR Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 I swapped from Simex ET's 32 x10.5, which I ran in Malaysia and briefly in the US, to TSL's in Q78/16 (35.5 x 9.5). Simex ET's were great in the jungle and for sloppy mud they were a somewhat better tire. I found them rather rigid and found the Swamper somewhat better on road. Simex ET's are not readily available in the US. If I had to make the choice, sizes being equally convenient, I would be heavily influenced by price. With the cheap Simex copies available in the UK, I would go that way over more expensive Swampers. If costs were similar, I would probably go with the Swampers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Bit of a cliff hanger of a line that one. Hope you're ok. I'm ok - very sore and got whiplash and numerous bruises but generally ok! I hit another vehicle (or 3), i was moving and it turns out they werent! Unfortunatly i have bent the chassis from the forces through the o/s chassis rail...made quite a mess complete front end, rad, intercooler and other engine bits mashed, stearing and some suspension bits mashed as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Bu**er!!! At least you're OK, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Well at least you're ok Better get the t-cut out, that looks like quite an impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Look on the bright side smo, it saves you selling iy now. Hassle on price with insurance and don't give up. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Well at least you're ok Better get the t-cut out, that looks like quite an impact. Indeed, best get the T-cut colour tho to make the best job of it Look on the bright side smo, it saves you selling iy now. Hassle on price with insurance and don't give up.Cheers Steve You might have a point there but i can see it causing just as many problems with insurance being difficult in the case of a write off, especially as i think i had just found a buyer too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Well, I guess you could also try buying it back from the insurers and using the good bits as a donor (engine, gearbox, axles etc) although it would mean a fair bit of work. How bad's the chassis damage? No chance of sorting it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 One whole chassis rail has move rearwards a noticable ammount. I guess its down to the insurance company, the assesor is going over on monday to see it and decide so i will find out then. If they do write it off then i shall definatly ask about buying it back because it would be an ideal base for my new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeppimp Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 hope the bruises etc are getting better Indeed, best get the T-cut colour tho to make the best job of it You might have a point there but i can see it causing just as many problems with insurance being difficult in the case of a write off, especially as i think i had just found a buyer too! if you have trouble with the insurers valuation it may be worth seeing if the buyer will put in writing the price they had agreed. I used this method with a m/c a few years ago and they caved immediately and gave me the market value rather than the 50% they initially offered without any quibbles. just a thought toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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