Dave the novice Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Help please guys I have a defender year 2002 and have been making a serious project of it for years and very near complete!! One problem its ex military and I have a new Diff front axle all built but I noticed the pan is longer so the propshaft is 60cm to long any ideas what I can do to overcome the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Are you saying you have a Salisbury front axle/diff or a Rover one? A Salisbury front axle will need a shorter prop as the differential nose is longer. Not 60cm shorter though, do you mean 60mm perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I'd suggest posting up pictures of exactly what you've got as a salisbury front would be a rare beastie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 My guess would be that one axle has the old long nose Rover diff, the other has the newer short nose Rover diff, possibly a mod, as I thought those were only installed on the rear axles of 110s and 130s (in Defender applications). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 4:21 PM, Retroanaconda said: Are you saying you have a Salisbury front axle/diff or a Rover one? A Salisbury front axle will need a shorter prop as the differential nose is longer. Not 60cm shorter though, do you mean 60mm perhaps? As you can tell im a novice . Yes it has a rover one and I have a rebuilt Salisbury fully loaded I bought from the army so apart from a shorter prop are there any other issues. And how long would the prop be? thanks for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 6:35 PM, FridgeFreezer said: I'd suggest posting up pictures of exactly what you've got as a salisbury front would be a rare beastie. I will get them posted as soon as snow clears but its defo a salisbury as i bought it already put together new from Army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Well congrats on nabbing a rare front axle - chances are it'll be easier to get Proshaft Clinic to make you a custom front prop than buy a genuine one, unless there's a common one that fits off-the-shelf. There's at least one thread in the Technical Archive section on stock propshaft lengths & part numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 23 hours ago, Snagger said: My guess would be that one axle has the old long nose Rover diff, the other has the newer short nose Rover diff, possibly a mod, as I thought those were only installed on the rear axles of 110s and 130s (in Defender applications). Mine at present has the rover diff but the new one I have is a salisbury for sure bought from Mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 6:35 PM, FridgeFreezer said: I'd suggest posting up pictures of exactly what you've got as a salisbury front would be a rare beastie. 18 hours ago, FridgeFreezer said: Well congrats on nabbing a rare front axle - chances are it'll be easier to get Proshaft Clinic to make you a custom front prop than buy a genuine one, unless there's a common one that fits off-the-shelf. There's at least one thread in the Technical Archive section on stock propshaft lengths & part numbers. I decided to put it on as its a chunky good axle and my baby deserves the best Im trying to find a fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 All I could find from a quick Google was a Salisbury front propshaft priced at over £1,000 - so I’m inclined to agree with FridgeFreezer. Measure the distance between the flanges first and see if anything matches up. I think your best bet will end up being getting your existing propshaft shortened to suit the new axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Retroanaconda said: I think your best bet will end up being getting your existing propshaft shortened to suit the new axle. TBH I think for the money you may as well buy a nice HD one made to length from Gwyn Lewis etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Has the axle got the salisbury specific panhard rod with it? As a standard one doesn't fit AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) My vehicle is a 110 2002 and the shaft i need has to fit 59.5 cm and the nearest off shelf is a 60 cm closed one so still to long!! any suggestions for landrovers forever Edited February 9, 2021 by Dave the novice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Without going for the specific one which is going to be mega bucks, you best bet is going to a custom place. Somewhere like Bailey Morris Propshafts. As above, have you got the Salisbury panhard rod? As they are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wytze Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 It's not a big job to shorten a propshaft. But when you need it that short, a wide angle prop would be nice i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Hi Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 22 hours ago, landroversforever said: Without going for the specific one which is going to be mega bucks, you best bet is going to a custom place. Somewhere like Bailey Morris Propshafts. As above, have you got the Salisbury panhard rod? As they are different. What is a panhard Rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the novice Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 Hi Guys you have all been very helpful many thanks for that Im going to Bailey Morris they make a new one to suit wide angle for £265 so Im happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, Dave the novice said: What is a panhard Rod It's the link which mounts to the chassis by the steering box, and goes down to the opposite side of the axle. It's what locates the axle side-to-side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wytze Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 54 minutes ago, Dave the novice said: What is a panhard Rod The panhard rod is the one between the chassis and the axle. parallel to the steering rod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Also, what are the brakes like on the Salisbury? Some of the front axle variants from the armoured PSNI Land Rovers have HUGE brakes which come with an equally huge price tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLineMike Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 as an observation, the salsbury front axles although having a huge ground anchor of a diff, i believe the shafts & cvs are the same as the standard 24 spline axle, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 hours ago, RedLineMike said: as an observation, the salsbury front axles although having a huge ground anchor of a diff, i believe the shafts & cvs are the same as the standard 24 spline axle, Stronger diff centre I believe. But I was of the same thoughts that the shafts and CVs are the same as a normal rover type axle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, landroversforever said: Stronger diff centre I believe. But I was of the same thoughts that the shafts and CVs are the same as a normal rover type axle. I think the the casing is rated for a higher weight too, hence why 109/110/130 get them on the back axle. So yeah, a very long-lived diff centre but not much of an upgrade over a Rover with a decent diff in it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_grieve Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Front Salisburies come in a few different flavours, some have a 23 spline outer with the AEU2522 CV joints and 24 spline inner which doesn't appear on any Rover axles and is unique to the front Salisbury which is what makes it stronger than standard 32 spline outers or early 10 spline inners. The diff offset is different to a Rover so the shafts are different lengths. Stronger but rarer is a quandary indeed. The Salisbury diff itself is a beast of a thing in comparison to a 2 pin rover diff but the loss in ground clearance as Mike says is a hefty penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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