driveallknight 9 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Hello all, I was hoping to get some advice about tire choice. I bought my 90 with these absurd Ziarelli Extreme in 235/70 R16. Im looking to get something else that will be easier on the gas consumption, clutch when getting off from a dead stop, faster speed (slightly) etc. I like the look of the Goodyear Wrangler MTRs or the BF Goodrich All Terrain KO2 but given that I drive 90% on asphalt maybe even these would be pointless as they are still meant for off road application? If the goodyears or BFG are too aggressive and wont make much of a difference maybe its pointless to change? Hope someone can chime in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arjan 361 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 We run Continental Cross Contacts (235/85 R16) and are very happy with them and they do fine in the Alps.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quagmire 30 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I fitted Michelin latitude cross tyres in 235/85 16 size on mine about six months ago and they have been great. Quiet, improved the ride quality and feel very sure footed in the wet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken Drumstick 282 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 45 minutes ago, Arjan said: We run Continental Cross Contacts (235/85 R16) and are very happy with them and they do fine in the Alps.. These are a good road biased tyre with enough ability off road should you want to venture up a lane or in a field. I too would recommend for this application. The BFG AT's arguably look better (more aggressive). But would make more sense if you off road more. The MTR was a standard fitment by Land Rover. Probably not a bad tyre and they run ok on the road. But they are noisy (make a humming noise). And my experience of them, they are rubbish in the mud. And not very good in the snow either. For places like Oz or even parts of the USA where you have hard baked mud, sand, gravel and dry rocks. I think they would work better than they do in the UK. I'm not familiar with the terrain in Italy however. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eightpot 249 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 After swapping BFG AT for Wrangler MTR you could feel the rolling resistance increase instantly and there's been a corresponding drop in mpg. I do like the MTRs in general though. Pretty much all of the aggressive looking tyres will hammer fuel consumption. Cross contacts, Grabber TR etc roll nicer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Retroanaconda 815 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 BFG AT will be ideal for your usage, they work excellent in everything other than deep thick mud. I’ve never noticed a reduction in fuel efficiency or any increase in noise between ‘road’ tyres or a good AT like the BFG, so they would be my recommendation. Available in 235/85/R16 as a standard size. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonpelly 40 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I can also testify to the above - We're running 235/85/R16 and getting just under 30mpg - Same as previous with Michelin 750R16 No real difference in noise - still need to shout to be heard 🙂 Simon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reb78 451 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Same as the others. The BFG ATs are excellent tyres. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Escape 183 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Can't fault the BFG ATs. But if you don't do many miles, there are cheaper alternatives out there (like General Grabber AT), not much difference in performance but they don't last as long as the BFGs. Filip 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elbekko 416 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Really like my Geolandar AT-S, very good on-road manners, not too loud, good for MPG and still do ok off-road. Didn't like BFG ATs at all when I had them, gripless and way too hard, especially in LT spec. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snagger 930 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Another vote for BFG ATs. I have had two sets of their ATKOs (first generation) on my 109 and my RRC (2 sets each), and remain very impressed with them for all road conditions and for gravel, shale, dirt tracks and dry grass slopes. They were ok in moderate mud to. But the surprise was how much better they are on snow, ice and frosty block paving (which is surprisingly slippery) than the road biased Michelin tyres LR fit as standard to their vehicles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken Drumstick 282 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I can see there is a lot of love for the BFG AT's. If the op plans to off road, then I'd agree. They won't be a bad tyre choice at all, but if you are correct in saying 90% on road (and the assumption that the 10% off road is only mild off roading). Then there are more road biased tyres than the BFG AT that might work better for the 90% of the time and still be suitable enough for the 10%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonpelly 40 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 48 minutes ago, Chicken Drumstick said: I can see there is a lot of love for the BFG AT's. If the op plans to off road, then I'd agree. They won't be a bad tyre choice at all, but if you are correct in saying 90% on road (and the assumption that the 10% off road is only mild off roading). Then there are more road biased tyres than the BFG AT that might work better for the 90% of the time and still be suitable enough for the 10%. That's probably quite fair. Another reason for me choosing the BFG ATs was thoughts with respect to handling in snow and ice. In any case, all tire choices are likely to be a compromise as we drive in different conditions and surfaces. Suspect for roads most likely having correct inflation pressures will help with mpg 🙂 Simon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snagger 930 Posted Monday at 03:18 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:18 PM On 2/16/2021 at 4:38 PM, Chicken Drumstick said: I can see there is a lot of love for the BFG AT's. If the op plans to off road, then I'd agree. They won't be a bad tyre choice at all, but if you are correct in saying 90% on road (and the assumption that the 10% off road is only mild off roading). Then there are more road biased tyres than the BFG AT that might work better for the 90% of the time and still be suitable enough for the 10%. I was trying to make the point that BFG ATs seem better on road in my experience than most road biased tyres, particularly in winter, certainly better than the Pirelli, Michelin and Hankook tyres I’ve had on the vehicles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simonpelly 40 Posted Monday at 03:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:39 PM (edited) 21 minutes ago, Snagger said: I was trying to make the point that BFG ATs seem better on road in my experience than most road biased tyres, particularly in winter, certainly better than the Pirelli, Michelin and Hankook tyres I’ve had on the vehicles. Agree. 👍 Edited Monday at 03:39 PM by simonpelly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reb78 451 Posted Monday at 05:44 PM Share Posted Monday at 05:44 PM Same ^^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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