Leclance Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Can any one help with this . When I fit the stub axle the pivot housing will only swivel about ten degrees each way , it’s as if the Uj and drive shaft are not going far enough into the centre diff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 I have replaced the brass bushes but they seem fully home . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_H Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) As far as i know, there are CVJ with different bearing diameters in the stub axle. Sounds like the diameter on the CVJ is to big. I believe the Oneten had a smaller diameter than the defender ones. Maybe it is the wrong bush Edited February 27, 2021 by Sigi_H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted February 27, 2021 Author Share Posted February 27, 2021 (edited) Yes looks like you are spot on the inner diameter of the bush is less than the diameter of the cv joint so it doesn’t slide over it . Thanks for advice Edited February 27, 2021 by Leclance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 I am struggling finding the right part number for the bush I need to resolve the problem above. Does anyone know the part number i need. the one shown above is this part -- Stub Axle Inner Bronze Bush (Britpart) FRC4319 which has the small inside diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retroanaconda Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 I had this problem with aftermarket (Britpart) bronze bushes years ago, changed to genuine ones and it fitted no bother. How much of a difference is there in diameter? Could it be it requires reaming to size after fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Is it not a stub axle problem? The driveshaft has an extra seal land that is too wide for the CV stub axle. You need the correct stub axle (or grind down the CV drive shaft land). This is the latest thread on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uninformed Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 What parts have you changed since pulling it all apart , when presumably, it was all working correctly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtrans Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 the bush ID is too small on the britpart ones, we fit them to the stub axle then kiss the ID on a lathe so the CV drops in nicely Dave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 9 hours ago, ashtrans said: the bush ID is too small on the britpart ones, we fit them to the stub axle then kiss the ID on a lathe so the CV drops in nicely Dave Date Is this after they are fitted in the stub axle as mine fit fine out of the stub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverik Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 20 hours ago, Retroanaconda said: I had this problem with aftermarket (Britpart) bronze bushes years ago, changed to genuine ones and it fitted no bother. How much of a difference is there in diameter? Could it be it requires reaming to size after fitting? I also had this problem just the other year - had a nightmare with the Britcar getting them to believe me - I gave up in the end and just sent all the parts back and managed to source some ex military genuine stub axles with the genuine sintered brass bushes pre-installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 14 hours ago, uninformed said: What parts have you changed since pulling it all apart , when presumably, it was all working correctly? Bushes, Bearings, oil seals, gaskets and Rust , yes was all working. I will need to change the shaft (not the CV joints are the inner teeth are worn) but wanted to resolve this one first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 As they didn't come back out in one piece I have ordered some genuine ones and will try that. If not ill get someone with a lathe to open them up for me. let you know how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtrans Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 12 hours ago, missingsid said: Date Is this after they are fitted in the stub axle as mine fit fine out of the stub? Yes , I think the ID shrinks when fitted to the stub axle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 So I have made some more progress on this (or am making ) . I have measured the new Brit part bushes internal diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Then I have measured the shaft outer diameter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 And here is the diameter of the new bush I have bought from bearmach before I have pressed it into the casing . as you can see the bush fits over the shaft nicely . Will be interesting to see if the bush inner diameter is affected by the process of pressing it into the casing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Yep so it all fitted together fine , lesson learnt don’t by britpart bushes . The bearmach ones where just fine . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve200TDi Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Glad you sorted it! I had an issue with a Range Rover 10 spline axle which did turn out to be a case of two different seals and bushes, over a change over year, so I just had the wrong seal/part number! It amazes me how manufactures can get parts so wrong! Do they not trial fit it onto the part it is meant to fit before plans go out the machine shop?! Or maybe it's not getting any feedback from the customer that it doesn't fit! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigi_H Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I did never measure that, but are you sure 4/100 will be enough before pressing it in? It will shrink by pressing and then will be 2/100 left ... too less? ... only to make you nervous 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclance Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 Honestly , I don’t know I’m taking a punt as I have no reference to tell me the clearance I need . Definitely concerned but I guess I will find out soon enough when I finish the other 3000 jobs left to do . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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