rtbarton Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I'm looking to buy a van and one option is to get an LDV/Sherpa. I would want the variant that has the diesel engine that fits the Series Landrover, the idea being that if the van goes to meet its maker I'll have an engine to fit into my SIII. I've no idea what models have what engine, so your help would be much appreciated! The other option is to go for a Ford van, when that expires the Edis unit would go along with a Megasquirt into the Landy, again some idea of models, years &c would be useful. Are there any diesel engines fitted to Escort vans that can be fitted into a Landy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 From what I've heard it's really not worth buying an LDV, especially on those grounds. Surely if you *need* an engine for your landy you could just pick one up when neeeded. The same with the EDIS argument, the 4-pot units will set you back maybe £25 for EDIS, coil pack, VR sensor and HT leads from a scrappy so hardly worth changing your choice of van because of it. Oh and Escort vans are horrible, it's like driving a snail. Fiesta ones (1.8D/TD) are excellent little things though. Any engine can be made to fit, it's just a question of engineering personally there are far better engine prospects out there than something out of a van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 Cheers FF, I need a van to use as I've been without transport since my car was stolen over a year ago, and when I've fiinished with it it'll get scrapped or sold, if the former I may as well hang on to the engine or any other useful bits. Regarding fitting, I really need to know what conversion kits are readily available. It's a case really of exploring as many options as possible. If I took the Edis bits out of a running vehicle at least I'll know that it all works. I've read that LDVs are carp, but I've spoken to owners who say they're Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My first engine conversion was a LDV (sherpa) engine into a 109. The engine is ok, it fits straight into a series vehicle with no cutting or welding. No good off road as the front cover is just a tin plate, and not water proof at all. 2.25 D manifolds, stat housing, etc all swap over, so it looks a tidy job with little effort. You would have to buy an early LDV though, Roger - the L/R engine was replaced with a Pug unit in the early 80's. Also the timing belt is different, so dealer only part. There's also an idler wheel which is not an L/R part. Tensioner is, and everything else is standard 2.5 N/A Land Rover parts. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Cheers Les, that rules an LDV out then, although I understand the Pug units run OK on veggie oil, which is anothe consideration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Doesn't Steve Parker do a conversion for Pug diesels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Doesn't Steve Parker do a conversion for Pug diesels? Yes, just had a look at their site Steve Parker I reckon the Pug engine would be a better bet all round given their reputation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwt1981 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 We are doing one at the moment, into a lightweight. Fits OK, made our own plate to convert it, used the Pug flywheel and Landie Clutch and plate. Also use Pug starter cos it fits with this setup. You also need to make a bush for the flywheel and engine mounts, nothing that hard but a bit fiddly. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 For further engine inspirations see the Engine Bunfight Thread, Rover 2.0 twink is a hot fave, Pug Mi16 might bolt in place of the Pug TD, there's Ford V6 Cossies (you can buy a whole Granada for £250), if you grab a Suzuki transfer box you can then use any RWD engine & box and all you need is an input propshaft adapter and some mounts (tx box is separate to the gearbox on Zuks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Just looking on eBay at LDV 400s and a couple were fitted with Transit engines, still diesel and 2.5 litres. Is this the same as the Pug? ie do they fit the same Pug engine to the Transit or were some LDVs fitted with Ford units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Don't know anything about a transit engine in an LDV, but the Pug unit is easily identifiable by the position of the inj pump. It's on the passenger side, and very low down. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGUE TROOPER Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Cheers FF,I need a van to use as I've been without transport since my car was stolen over a year ago, and when I've fiinished with it it'll get scrapped or sold, if the former I may as well hang on to the engine or any other useful bits. Does this mean you can do mail order again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Does this mean you can do mail order again? Hopefully, still not found a vehicle at the right price. The LDV is too big for my street, I'll probably end up with a P100 or VW Caddy. I keep looking at Series LWB truck-cabs, especially tax free diesel (not 2-1/4) to run on chip-fat! Those Peugot 2.5 diesels seem very thin on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8CAMEL Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 My first engine conversion was a LDV (sherpa) engine into a 109. The engine is ok, it fits straight into a series vehicle with no cutting or welding. No good off road as the front cover is just a tin plate, and not water proof at all. 2.25 D manifolds, stat housing, etc all swap over, so it looks a tidy job with little effort. You would have to buy an early LDV though, Roger - the L/R engine was replaced with a Pug unit in the early 80's. Also the timing belt is different, so dealer only part. There's also an idler wheel which is not an L/R part. Tensioner is, and everything else is standard 2.5 N/A Land Rover parts.Les. all the injector pipes are different as is the water pump i had to source some for someone once LDV only (in landrover bags) cost approx 25 ie 100 squids about 4 times the price the water pump cost over 100 squids from a motor factor. paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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