jules Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 While driving up to the Autosport show after filling up the night before in south west London the Disco was cruising in the high eighties when I lifted off for what I thought was a camera when I put the power back down there was nothing then my passanger said "whats wrong! look in you mirror jules were smoking loads" and it was a smog coming out the back. Bugger New Engine was the first thought... anyway pulled over to the hard sholder switched it off I jumped out my two passegers jumped out anyway we got it running and the smoke cleared we nursed it to the the show. we got it recoverd home. I stripped out the fuel pump to have look only to find the base of the pump (in take) is covered in a black tar which I cleaned up and the pump still screems and will not start the engine so I have ordered a new pump but before I fit it is there anything I need to know. Yes I am going to drain and clean the tank. And My two passengers were the driver and co-driver from the works Shogun in the BORC 04/05 so I didn't hear the end of the fact that they got a lift to the show in a Land Rover and only just got there and kept getting should have bought a Mitubushi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I stripped out the fuel pump to have look only to find the base of the pump (in take) is covered in a black tar which I cleaned up and the pump still screems and will not start the engine so I have ordered a new pump but before I fit it is there anything I need to know. Stop buying your fuel from the pikeys. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siearl Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Are you sure it was not the veggie based fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 I have put 40,000 miles since I last put veggy oil in and why would it be black and dirty when deisel is clean (Should be) from the pump and I put Tesco's own oil in. the car does about 900 miles per week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 It does sound like bad fuel though. You've not upset someone who might have put anything in? Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD5Spain Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 While driving up to the Autosport show after filling up the night before in south west London the Disco was cruising in the high eighties when I lifted off for what I thought was a camera when I put the power back down there was nothing then my passanger said "whats wrong! look in you mirror jules were smoking loads" and it was a smog coming out the back.Bugger New Engine was the first thought... anyway pulled over to the hard sholder switched it off I jumped out my two passegers jumped out anyway we got it running and the smoke cleared we nursed it to the the show. we got it recoverd home. I stripped out the fuel pump to have look only to find the base of the pump (in take) is covered in a black tar which I cleaned up and the pump still screems and will not start the engine so I have ordered a new pump but before I fit it is there anything I need to know. Yes I am going to drain and clean the tank. And My two passengers were the driver and co-driver from the works Shogun in the BORC 04/05 so I didn't hear the end of the fact that they got a lift to the show in a Land Rover and only just got there and kept getting should have bought a Mitubushi... You have my deepest sympathy see my posts for my TD5 90 alos I think problems with carp fuel... keep trying it seems to knock on to other probs and takes an age to sort out.... If only we had some recourse but how would we prove it was thier fuel? Cheers TD5Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 it wont help much really but the coach company i work for had several coaches breakdown last year due to black gunge appearing in the fuel tanks. i 'think' its total that supply our fuel if that makes any difference? the general thoughts at work are you can get a 'bug' that infects the storage tanks that causes the gunge, no idea where this idea came from or if its true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 it wont help much really but the coach company i work for had several coaches breakdown last year due to black gunge appearing in the fuel tanks. i 'think' its total that supply our fuel if that makes any difference? the general thoughts at work are you can get a 'bug' that infects the storage tanks that causes the gunge, no idea where this idea came from or if its true though. Yep, there is a bug that eats diesel but its normally not a problem in cars as the fuels not arround for long enough. Sounds bizzarre but its a big issue with boats. IIRC there's something you can put into the fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 MMMM Total thats a co-incidence... Replaced the pump and filter and cleaned out the tank. Primed up the pump etc etc drove 100m down the road and she stopped Sodding thing. Tomorow I have a meeting in Cambridge so I wil be doing that run in my old RRC 3.9v8 my company are keen for me to get the disco fixid as I'm fueling up the RRC with my fuel card to drive to and from work. Southampton to Uxbridge every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siearl Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Thats some fuel bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Thats some fuel bill At least you don't have to pay the bill, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Yep I am lucky there I had a meeting in Cambridge today and I've only just got home. two fuel stops and the midle box came loose. seven hours driving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 Nothing to do with the dirty fuel The injection wiring harness is contaminated with oil its very common apparently The replacement is only about £15 luckily (I would rather have known before I replaced the pump at £130 + vat) Anyone else had this….. The oil in the tank was nothing to do with the problem but just as well I cleaned it all out anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 The injection wiring harness is contaminated with oil its very common apparently I've not heard of it on Disco 2's. But I thought it was a big problem when Disco 3's came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 it was a common problem on TD5 engines a mates set itself on fire after and promptly burnt to the ground. from Martins website: http://www.web-rover.co.uk/nav.php?p=td5kb/oilharness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 it was a common problem on TD5 engines a mates set itself on fire after and promptly burnt to the ground. from Martins website: http://www.web-rover.co.uk/nav.php?p=td5kb/oilharness Hmm, i wouldnt have said common, it affected a number of very early TD5's but is pretty unherd of in later years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 It was a collapsed turbo hose one of the bottom ones, nothing to do with the oil in the loom or the ECU they were working fine. Air system was the last resort... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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