zardos Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Might be of interest at 2m56s mark about an electric Range Rover conversion https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-57901893 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carloz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/17/2021 at 10:13 AM, zardos said: Might be of interest at 2m56s mark about an electric Range Rover conversion https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-57901893 Why? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Hunter Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 The front of the queue starts behind me. I'll lead the way to the EXIT! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 8:50 AM, Carloz said: Why? 🤣 Because at some point you won't be able to run ICE classics. As much as I love my S1 with a V8, I would rather have it Electric than non running at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Personally don't think that will happen in my lifetime, petrol will be around long after I die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, missingsid said: Because at some point you won't be able to run ICE classics. As much as I love my S1 with a V8, I would rather have it Electric than non running at all. Sure you will, just like you can still ride or horse or run a steam engine. 😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, Escape said: Sure you will, just like you can still ride or horse or run a steam engine. 😉 ? At some point petrol will either be hard to come by, not for road use and too expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I very much doubt that, certainly not in our lifetime. Regulations will become stricter no doubt, with ever expanding LEZs etc. But I don't expect a complete ban. And if they keep pushing EVs (an somehow manage to get the power production and distribution to match), demand for petrol/diesel will decrease and so supplies will last a lot longer and prices should stabilize somewhat. I'm not saying we'll be able to commute to work in our S1 V8, Lotus Esprit, <insert car of choice>, not without increasing expense and difficulties. But we should be able to enjoy them as a fun means of transport in our own time. I don't really see the appeal of converting a classic to electrical. It's just too much of a compromise: there will be nothing of the original controls left, no need to shift gears or carefully adjust the choke for an easy start and nice idle, no sound of a V8 springing to life, no smell of hot oil and exhaust etc. And will you keep (fake) analogue dials or just glue an Ipad to the dash? You'll need one anyway to control the elektrickery... On the other hand you'll never get the benefits of a purpose built EV if you keep the old chassis and suspension etc. IMHO it would make more sense to take a platform from an I-pace or similar and replace the body with something looking like a Range Rover Classic if you just want the looks but not the driving experience. Filip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, missingsid said: Because at some point you won't be able to run ICE classics. As much as I love my S1 with a V8, I would rather have it Electric than non running at all. Noooo. No Character, no beating heart. Might as well just get yourself a Tesla Milk float ☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, smallfry said: Noooo. No Character, no beating heart. Might as well just get yourself a Tesla Milk float ☹️ In truth offloading will probably be banned before petrol is unavailable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escape Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Just now, missingsid said: In truth offloading will probably be banned before petrol is unavailable. Sad but true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 minute ago, missingsid said: In truth offloading will probably be banned before petrol is unavailable. Probably right there ! Before that though, we will only be allowed something like a Picanto/Aygo/Smart car type thing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Now this HAS got deppressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 This will be the next vehicle I plan on buying: https://www.citroen.co.uk/models/future-models/ami.html (Note: 'plan', it is likely I will buy many in between) But most of my miles are within a very short distance, < 8 miles, and something like this will do everything I would need it do. Plus, my son when old enough will be able to drive it and it will be ideal for him to go to and from college etc. That will leave me with my 'fun' cars that aren't being ruined by short journeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paime Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Bowie69 said: This will be the next vehicle I plan on buying: https://www.citroen.co.uk/models/future-models/ami.html Good lord what is this monstrosity?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Bowie69 said: This will be the next vehicle I plan on buying: https://www.citroen.co.uk/models/future-models/ami.html Hmmmm might have to fab my own before old age sets too far in lol regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I would happily take either of these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smallfry Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Really ? The only benefits of these as far as I can see is that they are quieter (for a while) and accelerate faster (for a while) Where do I even start with this ? So I wont bother. No way would I take one of these anywhere off piste, or away from civilisation. ESPECIALLY in winter I did however like the series 2 door hinges and mirrors, and I would bet that the mirrors were put on in a futile effort to decrease drag and increase range. Presenter is particularly annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, smallfry said: Presenter is particularly annoying. Echo that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:18 AM, Escape said: Sure you will, just like you can still ride or horse or run a steam engine. 😉 I agree. I think the demonisation of petrol and diesel will continue until the majority of cars are electric, then they will see the odd few on the road as irrelevant (they'll be too busy demonising gas boilers and other things). Then I think they'll just leave us alone seeing people who choose to run classic vehicles as just odd little chaps with funny hobbies (some people already put me in this category). I'm sure the cost of fuel will rise dramatically though and maybe it will be a synthetic fuel. Kind of like you can buy smokeless coal and you could in theory run your steam engine off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaghost Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, monkie said: Then I think they'll just leave us alone seeing people who choose to run classic vehicles as just odd little chaps with funny hobbies (some people already put me in this category). By that time most of us will have probably kicked the bucket or sat in comfy chair being hand fed and reminiscing about the good old days regards Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Stellaghost said: By that time most of us will have probably kicked the bucket or sat in comfy chair being hand fed and reminiscing about the good old days regards Stephen Maybe, but I think this is really picking up pace and will happen faster than we realise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad_pete Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Electric isn’t for everyone but quiet, less pollution in my immediate vicinity and something a bit different I would go for. I have a V8 and that accelerates faster until I run out of petrol money for it. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, monkie said: I agree. I think the demonisation of petrol and diesel will continue until the majority of cars are electric, then they will see the odd few on the road as irrelevant (they'll be too busy demonising gas boilers and other things). Then I think they'll just leave us alone seeing people who choose to run classic vehicles as just odd little chaps with funny hobbies (some people already put me in this category). I'm sure the cost of fuel will rise dramatically though and maybe it will be a synthetic fuel. Kind of like you can buy smokeless coal and you could in theory run your steam engine off it. Synthetic low emissions fuel is Porsche’s gambit. I hope it works. But I’m not so sure about your expectations that ICE vehicles will be accepted in the distant future. Most people don’t buy into the green fervour, but the loud voices that get all the attention and capitulation are on the radical green side, and politics these days seems to be controlled by the most hysterical claims, not the most rational or reasonable, and those seeking to control things never seem to be willing to compromise. I really hope you’re right, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkie Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I think people are increasingly waking up to the facts and we've got to change. The evidence that we can't carry on as we are is overwhelming in terms of air quality and climate change. But in terms of people accepting a small number of ICE powered classics in the future I think it will be a bit like attitude to steam trains. In the 60s as they were being replaced with diesel and electric alternatives; they were considered by many to be dirty, smelly inefficient relics of the victorian age and had to go. These days however now with a few preserved ones running on heritage lines or mainline tours draw in crowds of people who love them again. I think there are many parallels here with attitudes towards both steam engines and internal combustion engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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