Flash17 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Evening all, Probably a longshot but has anyone on here got home charging experience/issues with any of the PHEV models to come out of LR recently, if so I'd be interested to hear from you. We took a electric leap of faith (due to low emission zone charges where we live) and brought a new disco sport PHEV, the wife and I love the car (not more than the V8 110 though) with the exception of one niggle that it appears the dealer can't sort out... I can't get the LR in control phone app or the controls in the car to activate the charge time for overnight when we have cheap electricity on our economy 7 tariff, we set a scheduled charge time 0100-0500 but it just grabs electric as soon as its plugged in and doesn't wait to charge at night as it should. My gut feeling is its a software glitch (but one that's costing us lots of money ATM with day rate electric charges) that could be sorted out so I'm interested to know if other owners have had issues so as to determine if its just our motor, more widely many discovery sport PHEVs, or all current LR PHEV variants affected. Fairly sure its not a issue with our Devices (both have iPhone running up to date IOS) the car is on the latest over the air software update available, and the charger is a brand new Pod point with all the electric it needs as just put in a 3PH supply to the house to run it (and maybe a lathe in the future). Cheers in advance for any advice/experience you can share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Can't help with the actual issue - but could you not just use a Time Switch + Contactor to turn on the charger at the appropriate time? I appreciate it ought to be able to do it - but rather than pull your hair out, work around it (The suggestion has land rover written all over it!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Sparkes Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 If you go with the timer option, just be aware that the charge current must not go through the timer. The PodPoint device has a contactor in it, you will have to wire the operate coil through the time switch. I strongly suspect this will be non-standard wiring, you may void the warranty on your Pod Point, whether you do the wiring change or whether you get an accredited Charge Point electrician to do it. In a PHEV I'm not sure why you are worrying about cheap rate grid charging. In general a PHEV has so little battery capacity that it won't take long to charge from the mains. While 3 phase is good for machine tools, in my view it is taking future proofing to an extreme if current demand is only for a PHEV. My background is that I ordered a BEV in September 2017, it was put on the road in April 2018. If you want an EV forum to ask your question in I would suggest SPEAKEV. They have various subforums, so you can pick the Land Rover one, or the Charging one for background reading on the home charging trials and tribulations. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash17 Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 22 hours ago, simonr said: Can't help with the actual issue - but could you not just use a Time Switch + Contactor to turn on the charger at the appropriate time? I appreciate it ought to be able to do it - but rather than pull your hair out, work around it (The suggestion has land rover written all over it!) Cheers for the reply Simonr you right about the external timer option it is viable, if fact I could use the timer built in to the pod point to set the charge. However then the mains electrical supply is cut off once the charge is complete and can’t be used to precondition the battery and cabin before a daytime departure there for it uses the stored ev battery charge to precondition and thus affecting EV range. Finally as you say I ought to be able to do it in my my view it’s a brand new expensive motor from a premium brand, it should work as designed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash17 Posted February 27, 2022 Author Share Posted February 27, 2022 22 hours ago, David Sparkes said: If you go with the timer option, just be aware that the charge current must not go through the timer. The PodPoint device has a contactor in it, you will have to wire the operate coil through the time switch. I strongly suspect this will be non-standard wiring, you may void the warranty on your Pod Point, whether you do the wiring change or whether you get an accredited Charge Point electrician to do it. In a PHEV I'm not sure why you are worrying about cheap rate grid charging. In general a PHEV has so little battery capacity that it won't take long to charge from the mains. While 3 phase is good for machine tools, in my view it is taking future proofing to an extreme if current demand is only for a PHEV. My background is that I ordered a BEV in September 2017, it was put on the road in April 2018. If you want an EV forum to ask your question in I would suggest SPEAKEV. They have various subforums, so you can pick the Land Rover one, or the Charging one for background reading on the home charging trials and tribulations. Regards. Cheers for the signpost to SPEAKEV I’ll take a look. The future proofing is looking to the future when both family cars end up being pure EVs (guaranteed 8 years time in 2030 if buying new) with large cap batteries and the domestic heating being moved over to heat pumps. I think even the number of EV chargers will be used in the same way as double glazing when marketing houses in the future. As for costs, the tariff we are on (one we were forced onto after our previous supplier when bump) is approx 12.3p/KWH difference between day and night rates, we charge the 15kwh battery fully approx every 2 days so 182 days x 15 x £0.123= £335.97 per year difference. It’s not massive amounts but I’d rather take the family out than waste that cash. Add to that it’s a £50k motor it should work as designed/marketed, the reason we brought a LR new was it’s a premium brand and expect it to preform as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbekko Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Flash17 said: Cheers for the reply Simonr you right about the external timer option it is viable, if fact I could use the timer built in to the pod point to set the charge. However then the mains electrical supply is cut off once the charge is complete and can’t be used to precondition the battery and cabin before a daytime departure there for it uses the stored ev battery charge to precondition and thus affecting EV range. Finally as you say I ought to be able to do it in my my view it’s a brand new expensive motor from a premium brand, it should work as designed! Agreed it should work properly, but couldn't you set your chargepoint to charge from when the cheaper tariff starts until lunchtime or something? It shouldn't matter if the car is already fully charged by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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