200TDI Oil cooler pipe ordering confusion o ring/cone ends?

[roamingyak]

I’m in Africa and my engine oil pipe(s) need replacing, they are dripping oil due to age, and 200TDI parts aren't available where I am. Keen to order the correct part numbers as the parts will effectively cost me 3 times as much in the U.K. after couriers/taxes and take 5-7 days to get here.

However  there are quite a few options/LR part numbers to choose from with no useful descriptions:

https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-rover-defender-cooling-heating/oil-cooler-engine/oil-cooler-pipes_52993

and I can’t buy against the chassis number as:

- Recon Turners  engine in there

-Allisport radiator with cone connections on the rad end.

So I’m guessing I should:

-take off the existing pipes and determine what connectors I need (cone vs o ring) on both ends

- and then hopefully something brilliant person here can match those against the various part numbers so I know what to order?!

Any help appreciated please :)

 

[western]

The cone end at both ends of the pipe/hose assemblies are 

ESR280

ESR281

The 2 adaptors in rad are NTC3858

I Have these on my 200tdi.

[Mo Murphy]

The 300tdi oil cooler pipes that use the o ring sealing are also 4" shorter than the 200tdi cone type and won't reach if your 200tdi is in the correct place.

Mo

[western]

Some 200tdi like my original set had the o ring sealed hoses, I only changed them as the joint at the swaged end of the hoses started leaking. 

[miketomcat]

I'm fairly sure Discovery 200tdi used O rings both ends, but definitely the radiator end is.

Mike

[roamingyak]

Thanks everybody, to confirm, I have:

O Ring at engine end

Cone at Radiator end 

So any idea what part numbers I should order please?

[western]

Those must be Discovery parts then, as my Defender spec 200tdi has the same cone end fitting at both ends. & the previous items had the o ring seal at both ends, not mixed like your pipes.  I'm not familiar with Discovery 200tdi parts but this link might help 

https://new.lrcat.com/#!/1231/28980/29141/2218/29376

[roamingyak]

Thanks, my engine was originally a n/a, then a used 200TDI, then a ‘new’  Turners 200TDI, so who knows when those two pipes were put in on that journey lol

I was with a very competent Landy mechanic today, but the hoses into the engine were stuck, and were twisting the pipe when trying to get them out… so we didn’t actually get them out and check, but he was confident they were o ring  on that end (male piece on cooler pipe going into female piece of the engine as he put it). Could we have gotten that wrong?

Are there adapters we could buy?

[western]

Do the hose/pipe assemblies look like they have been modified ? possibly a previous owner has bodge it, the tophat housing on oil pump & the oil filter head come in 2 versions for cone end & O ring seal end pipes, 

[roamingyak]

20 minutes ago, western said:

Do the hose/pipe assemblies look like they have been modified ? possibly a previous owner has bodge it, the tophat housing on oil pump & the oil filter head come in 2 versions for cone end & O ring seal end pipes, 

No, everything looks normal and fits properly to my idiot eye. I’ll post some pictures, that might help!

[western]

Yes pictures would help, is it a high mounted turbo with serial number starting 11L or a low turbo starting 12L.

[roamingyak]

44 minutes ago, western said:

Yes pictures would help, is it a high mounted turbo with serial number starting 11L or a low turbo starting 12L.

High mounted 11L

[roamingyak]

Top radiator connection, and then each of the engine connections. I will try some better photos in the sun tomorrow…

[western]

really need to see the actual ends, so 11L a genuine Defender spec 200tdi, so it should have the o ring at each end. 

posted this a while ago. 

my old O ring type & New Cone end type, had to replace the adaptors in radiator, oil filter head & the top hat part as well to convert from O ring type to Cone end type