western Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 13 hours ago, Snagger said: These: There are 3 of these rubber bungs on this side of the block, they seal oil drilling for the cam bearings 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 (edited) Thank you both , yes one of my better ideas the red block. The front two are still in and there’s no oil at the rear of the block . It actually looks like the oil came from the front corner of the block from between the head and the block . You wouldn’t think that much oil could come from there would you? Edited January 22 by ianmayco68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 4 minutes ago, ianmayco68 said: Thank you both , yes one of my better ideas the red block. The front two are still in and there’s no oil at the rear of the block . It actually looks like the oil came from the front corner of the block from between the head and the block . You wouldn’t think that much oil could come from there would you? Oil pumps move more than one would expect , again from hard bitten experience , thankfully mostly in my (very) younger years but it's hard to forget an oil lake under the 4 poster.... Steve 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 Yes I thought it was coolant when it started hitting the floor and as it was over the pit which is just over6ft deep it made a good slap when it hit the floor 🫣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toenden Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 That front corner is where the oil to the valvetrain is pumped through so it does sound like the HG isn't letting it through maybe by being the wrong way around/the hole through not present in the HG. If the HG is a multilayer then there might on top be the problem, that the bung holding the layers together have been squashed between the head and the block with it being the wrong way around, leaving a small distance in which the oil can move... a mate did this once, thats how I know.. 🙂 /mads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 For next time, the Elring gasket has ‘Top’ embossed on one side. It doesn’t jump out at you but is there if you look. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Peaklander said: It doesn’t jump out at you but… … but the oil does. 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Clearly! I could do with a red block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 @Peaklander paint was from Halfords I believe, very runny so you need to apply thinly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hammerite smooth works well - it is resilient to fuel, oil and heat. It stayed clean Ona 12J that I rebuilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 So stripped her down today , well stepson did some this morning before I came back from work and yes the head gasket was on wrong way , when the head was off I could see why the oil came out like it did . When your a numpty and put it on the wrong way round the HD doesn't actually cover the oil gallery outlet so it can quite easily spurt out in the gap between the head and the block , lesson learned . But to be fair the " TOP " etching was a lot more prominent on the new gasket than the old one , so onwards and upwards . There was oil residue around the rocker shaft and nothing was bent so hopefully I stopped the engine in time , we'll find out when I next start her , fingers crossed . cheers all Ian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It'll be fine, you were on the ball with the first start up safety. Another step being done eh Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 Hi all , all back together, drained the remaining oil out and found some droplets coolant in it. I’d imagine they came from what was left in the head when I removed it , I did remove all from the pistons but some obviously got to the sump. So do I run a litre or so of oil through to get rid of any that might be in there or just fill her up and go for it? Trying not to get any more problems 😁, cheers Ian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 A few drops left will be fine I'd say , top tip if the head ever comes off again is to remove the block drain then there will be no coolant above the block face. A check of the oil colour after a minute running will confirm oil condition. Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 The stepson stripped it down to the point of the head coming off and I forgot to ask if he’d removed that plug . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snagger Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 If the contamination was small, then it’ll be fine to run as is - it’ll evaporate out on the first long run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 Hi all , just to put this to bed sorted everything and started her up this afternoon and ran her for about 5-10 mins on and off . She sounds lovely , purred nicely and no noises that were out of place so well happy . Thanks all for the help 😁👍. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve b Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Shared knowledge does it again Nice one Ian Steve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaklander Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 That's great to hear. My engine is ready to turn over after a bit of an overhaul. I do hope that everything is in the right place and orientation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmayco68 Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 Yes , first turn over is always the most worrying time , you’ve always got that nagging feeling in your head that you’ve missed something but it’s normally fine. Just remember to put the HD gasket on the correct way or you get a rather lot of oil on the floor 🤣🤣🤣 , don’t ask how I know. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 Found that my 3 bungs,the rear 1 missing, found it on driveway, centre one missing but sat by vacuum pump, front one all gooey, so removed & fitted 3 new bungs with blue hylomar, I think LR could of threaded these holes & put 3 small bolts in to seal them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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