Smokydiesel Posted September 28, 2005 Share Posted September 28, 2005 Hello, Just bought a very nice 1969 Series IIa. It looks nearly original, but still I’d like to learn more about the “specs” in 1969. Things like, when did Land Rover swap the metal grill for the plastic one, when did plastic indicator lenses replace the glass ones etc. Any idea where I can find this information ? any good internet sites or books ? Cheers, Edwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Plastic grills came in with the start of S3 production in Sept 1971, but as with all things Land Rover there was often a lag in introducing new bits till all the old was used up, I know that in New Zealand I've seen S2a Land Rovers with a 1972 build date but still with wire grills & other typically SIIa features, ie door hinges & dash bords etc. It could be that assembly of CKD packs here lagged behind the intro of the S3 for the home market. Sorry, can't help with the lamp lenses other that to say that every S3 I've seen has had plastic lenses , all that I've been aware of anyway, & I know that my 71 SIIa had plastic lenses too.I've also seen many late SIIas updated with a non original S3 plastic grill. HTH, Cheers, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokydiesel Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 Hi Steve, Thanks for your reply. My IIa has been "updated" with that plastic grill too, I'll better start looking for a wire grill at the next sort-out ! Cheers, Edwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 If your lights are in the wings on your IIa then you will need the very late IIa grille, rather than the one shaped to go round the lights in the slam panel. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 ...which can be quite tricky to track down, there's some on ebay atm for almost £40... I managed to get a stainless copy of one at the last Sodbury after about 6 hours of searching, good though ... and then saw 3 'real' ones on my way out! Doesn't that *always* happen at Sodbury though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 actually, I have one hanging up in the garage that I might be persuaded to part with... Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70siia Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 when did plastic indicator lenses replace the glass ones etc. Hi Edwin, Try the Series Two Club webiste - look at teh history page, it will give you some idea of changes. Failing that, you could ask on their forum as well. Although, as has already been mentioned ^, there is no such thing as a firm cutoff date with Land Rovers..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokydiesel Posted October 3, 2005 Author Share Posted October 3, 2005 Thanks all for your replies ! Let's see if I can find a grill at the coming sortout.........but 40 pounds......pfff Cheers, Edwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I might be wrong, but i dont think that glass sidelight lenses were a production item on anything after the 80". I have a late (53') 80" which has wing mounted glass side lights, i also have a 1955 107" and a 1957 109" series one's and neither of them have glass lenses other than the headlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 I might be wrong, but i dont think that glass sidelight lenses were a production item on anything after the 80". I have a late (53') 80" which has wing mounted glass side lights, i also have a 1955 107" and a 1957 109" series one's and neither of them have glass lenses other than the headlights. As they say they're all different. My '62 109 2A has glass sidelights which always seemed in keeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedley Posted October 3, 2005 Share Posted October 3, 2005 As they say they're all different. My '62 109 2A has glass sidelights which always seemed in keeping. I have '63, '66 and '67 11a's, all of which have plastic sidelights. is there a definate answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 my 65 has plastic, then again there aint much standard on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 my '68 had plastic when I pulled it out of the shed it had sat in for the previous 15 years - it has plastic now too... Hope that helps (?) Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokydiesel Posted October 4, 2005 Author Share Posted October 4, 2005 actually, I have one hanging up in the garage that I might be persuaded to part with... Mark Hi Mark, Might be interested in your spare grill but I do live across "the big water" (Holland) so shipping it over here will probably make it a bit (too) expensive...... Cheers, Edwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 are you planning to come to the old sodury sortout at the end of the month? if so, I am sure we can arrange something! Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehetabel Posted October 4, 2005 Share Posted October 4, 2005 Another "fact" to throw into the mix is that the Australians made a steel copy of the SIII grill which is a nice piece of kit [i got myself one off of Ebay a few years ago] cheers JOhn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokydiesel Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Hi Mark, Not sure about the Sortout myself, but some friends of mine might want to go. Will check that out and come back to you if they do decide to visit Newbury…. Are we allowed to talk “prices” here in public ? if not, do send me a PM or email me with the price you have in mind. Edwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tufty Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I had a 11a about ten years ago, which had been fitted with the plastic series 3 grille. Hated it! I was looking around in a scrapyard and found that I was standing on a late ('68 - '71) galvanised one! No Landys of any description anywhere near! The bloke in charge said 'Have it, mate. No good to me.' Was I pleased? Oh yes. Mind you, it was ten years ago. They were fairly scarce even then though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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