Lewis Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Today I finally got around to fitting the Gigglepin mainshaft kit to the rear 8274 from the 110 I got to stage one of the intructions and failed - the cam-gear from the winch is 0.3mm smaller than the Gigglepin shaft that it is supposed to freely slide upon - so no dice, there is no way that the cam gear will fit onto the shaft Also the original Warn cam-gear doesnt really mate to the uprated splined cam that came with the shaft, there are large gaps around the circumfrence when the cam is in the drive position Have I got the wrong bits, is something missing, or are Gigglepin's tolerances really over 0.4mm out? Obviously i will call them first thing tuesday but I'm hoping someone here wil have the answer as there is a few with Gigglepin 8274's Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I can only assume there are different revisions of the 8274 with different sized bits. It's very unlikely the shaft has not been machined to the correct tolerance. Those that I have seen have been too nicely made (by a grown up) for that to be likely. I've been plagued with different dimensions of parts in different revisions of Land Rovers & Suzukis. No reason to think Warm will be any different! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I did 2 and both went together no worries both were late winches though. Jim will sort it out no questions come Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 8, 2007 Author Share Posted April 8, 2007 Its a bit of an emergency for sunday so i hope it can be sorted in time. I tired to fit one of my 8074's instead but the hole in the car is 8274 shaped only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I very much doubt its the mainshaft that's wrong as they're made by someone very good. Its likely to be Warn changing things over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I very much doubt its the mainshaft that's wrong as they're made by someone very good. Its likely to be Warn changing things over the years. Simon just said that! "Those that I have seen have been too nicely made (by a grown up) for that to be likely." I have found variations in brake shafts from early to late winches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 I have found variations in brake shafts from early to late winches. I was of the understanding that the variation in size came from the early ones being 1inch dia (25.4mm) and the late ones being 25mm dia, therefore even if the winch is old enough to have an imperial cam gear then it would still clear the presumably metric Gigglepin shaft I'll find out tomorrow I guess Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Well, I just spoke to Gigglepin who were very helpfull It seems I have an eroneous shaft that has missed the final grinding process. They will be sending out a replacement immediately Kudos to Gigglepin for sorting the problem swiftly and being genuinely interested in helping, rather than the usual "Our products are perfect - you must be wrong" attitude I have come to expect from suppliers Pictures for those who doubted Poor fit on the cam Lewis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 For Jim/Gigglepin Gents Top shaft is from winch that is being rebuilt, lower shaft is from a spare winch (the one is small pieces) The cam gear and toothed cam gear shown fitted to the lower shaft are the ones measured in the photo's I sent you earlier. The top shaft has the cam gear machined into it. Top shaft is U/S due to corrosion resulting in seizing of the brake/toothed cam gear. Lower shaft is U/S due to minor corrosion on the brake end of the shaft and tooth breakage on the shaft gear. The cam mechanism on the top shaft has the flats you describe, whilst the cam mechanism on the lower shaft has no flats and has the anomolously sized cam gear. Photo's below Cam mechanism from lower shaft with no flats Showing unusually large cam gear from the lower shaft, next to the Gigglepin uprated cam gear Hope some of this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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