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2.5 diesel - wrong sump?


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I recently bought my first Land Rover. It needs work, but it was expected to be a multi-year project. According to the VIN, it's a 2.5L Diesel 12/24Volt 1987 Land Rover 110.

I figured it hadn't had an oil change in a while, so I had a look to see what it would take. It looks like the exhaust downpipe is blocking the drain plug:

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Here's another view:

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According to the parts book, the oil drain should be on the opposite side of the exhaust downpipe. Any ideas what's going on here?

The VIN decoded:

SALManufacturer code: Land RoverLDModel: Defender (for early models: Ninety, or One Ten)HWheel base: 110 inchABody type: 2-door: Pickup, hood cab, truck cab, or soft/hard topCEngine type: 2.5 litre diesel (model 12J)8Steering and transmission: Left-hand drive (LHD), 5-speed manual (LT85, LT77, LT77S, R380 or other)BModel year: 1985 to 1987AAssembly location: Solihull, UK

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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is there a telltale signs of the drain being moved from the right side of the sump --i.e. -- a welded up hole, it's just that one shown looks like a bodge repair, it's to high & as you say on the wrong side.

only other choices is it maybe a sump from a 2.25 Series 3 engine thats been fitted in error.

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I don't see anything odd in particular. Here's a couple more pictures. Either way it goes, it looks like the right course of action would be to order the correct part and a replacement gasket, eh? I did see a stamp on the side of the engine saying that it had been rebuilt in 1999 - it stands to reason that at that time they may have used the wrong part.

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A view of both sides:

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I'm thinking the sump has been repiared at sometime & the drain plug & pipe have be refiited to the wrong sides, it's correctly fitted as the shallow section is towards the rear of the engine.

your best move is to obtain another sump with the drain on the correct [right hand] side.

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I was going to say that it was a series sump for oil cooler fitment, untill i saw the later photo's which showed the drain pipe from the oil separator. I does look to me like the exhaust is wrong, its a lot fatter looking than the front pipe on my 19J, also the support bracket? what do others with x-mod 2.5's say about the exhaust.

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I was going to say that it was a series sump for oil cooler fitment, untill i saw the later photo's which showed the drain pipe from the oil separator. I does look to me like the exhaust is wrong, its a lot fatter looking than the front pipe on my 19J, also the support bracket? what do others with x-mod 2.5's say about the exhaust.

The previous owner said that there *had* been an oil cooler, but he had removed it because it was spraying oil all over the place.

As for the exhaust, I think it's caked pretty thick with oil and mud. I'll try to clean it up a little for a better photo.

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The drain location looks the same as my 2.5 NA. The exhaust looks a little closer to the sump than it should be. I believe that engines with the oil separators in the CCV system have the drain on the left.

I'd love to see your rig sometime, if you're willing. What does CCV stand for?

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Crank Case Ventilation.

Oh, I did not notice you are local. I don't have that engine any more. Just put in a 200TDI last month.

I assume then that yours is ex military? If so, that would explain the sump. The military spec engine incorporate a fancy oil separation system on the CCV system.

PM me if you want to get together. Do you know about the ALRE (Alberta Land Rover Enthusiasts) outing on the May long weekend?

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