suggs Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 having a spot of trouble, ive got a starting problem. turn the key and just get a click from under the bonnet, then after a few goes it will suddenly start as normal full power dosent seem to be a flat battery issue. seems to start fine when cold but plays up more when warm. you can turn it over 10 times and nothing, then try one more time and it will start as normal, turn it off and try again and get nothing but the click for a few attempts, then it will start again.. i whent through a lot of water at the weekend and im wondering if the starter is sticking now, as it was fine before then and has only started playing up yesterday Is taking it off and greesing it up worth doing or just fit a new one as its a pain to get it off on a 300 tdi, dont want to have to do it twice. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 Sounds like a dicky solenoid, but normally they will spin, just not engage. Might be worth checking for a loose connection on the small wire that goes to the solenoid. I had that trouble on a Peugeot of mine. In the end I removed it and crimped a new spade on and it was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 I'd also vote for the bad connection or sticky solenoid. If the Disco is anything like the defender though I have know learnt that there is a second smaller one between the ignition switch and the solenoid on the starter. In the event I traced my problems right back to a dicky ignition switch but do wish I hadn't started by dropping exhausts and starter motors off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted June 6, 2007 Author Share Posted June 6, 2007 i did think about the little wire but wasnt syre if there was one on a 300 tdi starter, trouble is its in such a tight space you cant see much. the starter and solenoid are a one piece unit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted June 6, 2007 Share Posted June 6, 2007 i did think about the little wire but wasnt syre if there was one on a 300 tdi starter, trouble is its in such a tight space you cant see much. the starter and solenoid are a one piece unit.. Exactly. That little wire (red/white IIRC) comes from another much smaller solenoid further up the loom which is much easier to get to and test/bypass. Try feeding 12V into this little wire first to see if the starter/solenoid works, there will be a connecting plug further up you can tap into that is easier than trying to get an alternate feed onto the starter itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 well looks like its it was the earth strap to the chassis, the little spade connection was tight and when i removed it and turned the engine over there was nothing no click etc so new that wasnt it. i removed the earth strap and this caused the same as yesterday just a click from the solenoid, it was quite rusty where it bolted to the chassis so i gave it all a good clean up and replaced it. fingers crossed that was it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Hmmm forgot about the old dodgy earth strap problem. Best make sure it is proper sorted as it is quite common for the Handbrake cable to act as a substitute earth and cause the sheath to melt. Glad you fixed it though. My solenoid is definately on the blink amd although I have a spare starter I am not looking forward to changing it.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 if you have a 200tdi it looks like a proper mission to change, the 300tdi looks pretty easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suggs Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 well it played up again today.. so new starter now fitted, problem solved.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 glad you got it sorted and at least you tried the other options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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