PaulMc Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Anyone got a reccomendation for a crimper that does the Warning light panel terminals? The proper crimper is about £250 so over £8 a crimp I use one of these Hozan P-706 crimping tools - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hozan-P-706-CRIMPING-TOOL-/190832887283 Not cheap, but very versatile. Unlike the Tyco crimpers, which cost several hundred pounds, and will only crimp one type and size of terminal, these Hozan crimpers will crimp almost every type of terminal you'll find in the connectors used on late model Land Rovers. I've used them to make perfect crimps on - MQS sealed (TD5 horns, side repeaters) MQS unsealed (TD5 clock, Tdci instrument connectors) 040" Multilock (TD5 instrument warning lights connectors) 070" Multilock (switch connectors) 090" Sumitomo unsealed (TD5 14-way instrument harness connector, hazard warning lights switch connector, 20-way circuit headers) 090" Sumitomo sealed (TD5 main/engine/chassis harness interconnects, Denso alternator connector) 070" Econoseal (NAS lamp connectors) Junior Timer & Junior Power Timer - sealed and unsealed As well as several other types of terminal. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Nice collection you have there Les. Any idea where the crimper is from? And don't say it's from the back left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Nice one, cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhybrid Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 ages later.... Just getting round to doing this conversion on a vehicle of mine. Is the 300 discovery speedo sender the same as a td5 defender one? the discovery gearbox loom only uses 2 wires in the 3 pin plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 No, won't give the correct signal to speedo, you need the ybe100530 defender unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 The Discovery speedo sender gives twice the number of pulses per revolution, so at 30mph your speedo will read 60mph ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 And don't buy a britpart sender or you'll have a wibbly wobbly electronic speedo lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robhybrid Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 changed sender and added centre wire used britpart YBE100530G was vdo in the box. works a treat :-) now to work out why my fuel gauge is giving strange low readings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKeymeister Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I've finally got round to doing the speedo this week - converted my 200tdi to the td5 warning light panel about a year ago now. I've spent the last few nights preparing the wiring and put it all in this afternoon, on the test drive the speedo was even more wibbly wobbly than before, and about 10-15mph under! Took the transducer out, the square drive bit had totally snapped off, and it turns out it was not sitting square - with the retaining bolt done up, it was pulling in at an angle which I didn't realise before. Has anyone else had this trouble? I suspect it'll need a washer or something behind the hole in the transducer for the retaining bolt so it sits square, then the whole lot will line up and hopefully it won't happen again. It was a legit version, not a cheap copy, but I've had it for a year or two now waiting to be fitted so no chance of returning it. Is the transducer td5 specific or is it also fitted to the puma by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 transducer is common YBE100530 & Yes to washer under bolt head, but earlier vehicles may have a Stud & nut, mine does. Tdci vehicles http://lrcat.com/#30/4/45156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKeymeister Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The one in that diagram looks a lot different to the one I have, which looks like this.... The one in that diagram actually looks like the Disco version...like this... I'll slide under one of the puma defenders at work on Monday and see whats fitted...if its compatible there may be a swap done... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 don't go by the drawing they are just a generic drawing to show the item, you need the green one for a 90/110/defender, the black disco one makes the speedo read to fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I wouldn't be surprised if the microcat drawing is just the wrong picture, the part number is certainly the same in microcat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKeymeister Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 In true Landy spirit, I got bored and had a look through my spares department to see if anything else would do. I've got a transfer box out of a 300tdi Disco, and it still had the sensor on it, so thought I'd give that a go. I've already read that it gives double the pulses per mile so would result in it reading double, but thought that would be better than the nothing at all that I currently have. It certainly looks like I wouldn't have the same trouble again - the square drive piece in the Disco one is metal rather than plastic, and when bolted up it was all square, unlike when the Defender item was fitted. Unfortunately though, it didn't read anything at all with the Disco sensor. The pins are correct as far as i can tell, so I don't think it's wired wrong, and it did work when it was still in my old Disco. Just out of interest, does anyone know if the Disco sensor does result in a double reading, or results in no movement of the needle like I'm having? I will try and get a replacement Defender sensor tomorrow, I'm just impatient and curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 They won't bolt up square if the little square drive is not engaged properly.... that's how I broke the end of my sender. Still working without the very end bit after ~10k miles before I took her off the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 ......Just out of interest, does anyone know if the Disco sensor does result in a double reading, or results in no movement of the needle like I'm having? I will try and get a replacement Defender sensor tomorrow, I'm just impatient and curious It should work, read this post http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=69070&p=644014 DDT is actually using a disco sender for his after I modified his speedo to read the correct number of pulses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Those Hozan crimpers are now reduced by $20, good excuse to buy a set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingy Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 A big thanks to all regarding this and the Td5 dash threads Just got to wire the green transducer thingy at the gearbox then the dash conversion is finished It was a bit more entertaining as im using an early v8 loom Speedo still looks a mile out TD5 Warning lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CwazyWabbit Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 ..... Speedo still looks a mile out IMG_0807.JPG .... ROFL One day I'll have to fit one to mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMc Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 TD5 instrument binnacle complete with harness and 14-way sumitomo connector + warning lights connectors + temp. sender + Econoseal connector ( for speedo transducer [not included] ) £130 Buy it Now - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/defender-td5-instrument-cluster-1998-2006-/221577811938 Not me selling it (although, he did buy the connectors from me ) - just thought that someone thinking of doing this conversion might be interested. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Okay, so I didn't read the whole thread, I only managed 15 pages, but where did everyone get their hazard warning lamp feed from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Black with red tracer from original loom? I fitted full td5 looms so was mostly plug n play but James's guide was very helpful http://www.retroanaconda.com/landrover/2009/10/installing-defender-td5-gauges-into-a-200tdi300tdi/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The thing is there is no hazard lights feed to the warning lamp panel, the original warning lamp cluster uses the same lamp for left indicate, right indicate, and hazard. The hazards illuminate the lamp through the left/right indicate feeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Can you use gr/wh for RH indicator, gr/red for LH indicator feeds (splice from stalk for +ve feed) and then pick up the gr/wh from the hazard switch to feed the hazard warning (connect to bk/red) I'm pretty sure I read someone done this....possibly on this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotts90 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Or simply not bother with the hazard triangle? Running separate feeds will illuminate both direction icons and the old style switch will flash...fulfilling MOT requirements iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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