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Just seen Land Rover Vs. Jeep on the Mean Machine Trans Atlantic Challenge, Discovery Channel.

The Land Rover won 3 challenges to 1.

But how dose the Hummer compare or are they too different to make a comparison?

Anyone out there had the chance to drive both?

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I hope you are kidding :unsure:

The H1 is a lardy desert truck only good for following tanks!

Very big,

Very fun,

But totally useless in any normal situation, it has a reasonable capability but it's shere size screws up any hope of realistic use.

H2,

Now just don't make me laugh!

carp at everything except making the driver / owner look a prick :lol::lol::lol:

Even got stuck in a silly little mud slope that a series went up!

Driven both,

The H1 was fun,

The H2 made me ashamed to be seen in!

Lara.

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The H3's are very popular in the UAE for shopping and dropping the kids off at Wild Wadi water park. Even the Police have them now!

One of the 4x4 mags did a test in the deserts surrounding Dubai and sorry to say that it came out as being under powered and had some over heating issues too. The air conditioning was also not up to the Jap standards.

I saw one recently after an RTA with the entire side ripped off!

I love the looks of it...but not whats under the skirts.

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Just seen Land Rover Vs. Jeep on the Mean Machine Trans Atlantic Challenge, Discovery Channel.

The Land Rover won 3 challenges to 1.

But how dose the Hummer compare or are they too different to make a comparison?

Anyone out there had the chance to drive both?

I haven't seen that program advertised on Discovery channel here. Can you give more details of the particular challenges the Landy and Jeep had to take on?

Bill.

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first challenge was park outside the school gates, second challenge was a doubler park in supermarket wothout dinging another car then fill with weeks shopping, third challenge was getting some 20" rims under the arches(i guess this is where the landy lost) 4th challenge was to try and buy a sapre part ofr less than 5quid! :D

but of course i could just be making all this up

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first challenge was park outside the school gates, second challenge was a doubler park in supermarket wothout dinging another car then fill with weeks shopping, third challenge was getting some 20" rims under the arches(i guess this is where the landy lost) 4th challenge was to try and buy a sapre part ofr less than 5quid! :D

but of course i could just be making all this up

You would be pretty accurate if the challenge was conducted by one of the LandRover comics. I read one the other day for the first time in years. Nothing's changed, it was pathetic. I mean, a story on the Agrover without pics of the portal axles, come on!

Bill.

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Bill, are you suggesting that people may want to actually build vehicles? Surely they're better off just writing a cheque to one of the (numerous) advertisers in the magazine and getting them to do it :rolleyes:

My favourite "tech" article was one on fitting a winch bumper (undo old bumper, bolt new one on) and they actually took it to a pet specialist to take pictures of their mechanics bolting it on for them <_<

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Bill, are you suggesting that people may want to actually build vehicles? Surely they're better off just writing a cheque to one of the (numerous) advertisers in the magazine and getting them to do it :rolleyes:

My favourite "tech" article was one on fitting a winch bumper (undo old bumper, bolt new one on) and they actually took it to a pet specialist to take pictures of their mechanics bolting it on for them <_<

Fridge, I think some readers would be inspired to build things if the comics were more technically orientated.

Another gem that comes to mind was years ago when LRO did a comparison between a late leaf sprung Austin Gipsey and a series 2a Landy. The offroad portion of the comparison consisted of merely measuring the approach and departure angles of both vehicles and that was it! I'm amazed that these publications survive and get good money for worn out old rope.

Bill.

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Ithink H2 and H3 are on a tahoe chassis one of the worst 4x4s in the US :unsure::unsure:

Well, you're close. The H2 is on the Tahoe chassis, with the Tahoe driveline. The H3 is actually on a leafsprung chassis. (at least the rear is leafsprung, lol) The trucks are jokes. But the actual HMMWV was great for desert use. The major problem with themis in actual trail or trial use. They are not i.e. NOT practical. Just too darned big/ Bad turning radius. Too wide. Too long of a wheelbase. Just no practicality at all.

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Well, you're close. The H2 is on the Tahoe chassis, with the Tahoe driveline. The H3 is actually on a leafsprung chassis. (at least the rear is leafsprung, lol) The trucks are jokes. But the actual HMMWV was great for desert use. The major problem with themis in actual trail or trial use. They are not i.e. NOT practical. Just too darned big/ Bad turning radius. Too wide. Too long of a wheelbase. Just no practicality at all.

I am sure all your observations are valid when comparing HUMMWV's to LandRovers and similar size rigs, but say compared to a typical full size US pickup on biggish tyres, how do you think they stack up in offroad ability? I feel the lack of suspension articulation and proper locking diffs is their main disadvantage, although I believe ARB make an air locker to address that issue.

Bill.

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Well; I can't compare to an american pickup; because I'd kill myself before buying an american POS. LOL. But I just bought a 2007 Toyota Tundra doublecab to tow the Rovers with. It has a better turning radius, is narrower, and easier to navigate through any tight areas than a H1/HMMWV. Mine is 2wd, but has the auto LSD/electric locker in the rear. I believe any good truck (pickup) with lockers would still get further on any trail than the H1 styled vehicles, simply because of width and articulation. In the states; most trails have some pretty tight sections.

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I spent a lot of time driving a clapped out N/A 110 in the desert in 2003 while Messrs Bush/Blair attempted to move their drinks cabinets closer to Baghdad. Even with a sh*gged out N/A 2.5 motor it could turn cartwheels compared to the Hummers which just sank in the sand. We came to the conclusion that the Spams would win the war provided it was conducted entirely on tarmac!

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