Bull Bar Cowboy Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 More snake oil sir ……………….. £4 per pony .............. just screw it right in there .................@ £12 per plug for a 3.9 RV8 that equates to 3 ponies per plug............ 24bhp extra with these new fangled super duper left handed flugal valves .............. http://www.pulstarplug.com/ Discuss………………the answer is obvious Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Spark Plugs? What are they for then???? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 More powerful plugs? Does that mean if I use them in place of a 3 pin 13 amp plug on my desk lamp it'd be like replacing the 60W bulb with a 100W one????? Surely if you've got your ignition set up correctly then all the defficiencies they mention with spark plugs are being compenstated for as everything they talk about should be predictable??? On the flip side I'm sure these'll be a hit with the electronic supercharger boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Hmmm, what's that smell? I'm quite curious about how these things might "work", or rather what's inside them as a green blob doesn't constitute a "Pulse Circuit" in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 More powerful plugs? Does that mean if I use them in place of a 3 pin 13 amp plug on my desk lamp it'd be like replacing the 60W bulb with a 100W one????? Think of the energy used and carbon produced - you should really fit energy-saving plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pugwash Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 is it actually possible that spark plugs can increase the spped of the propogation of the flame across the flame front? isn't that what the little v-spark plugs try and do? i have no idea if these could possibly work or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imspanners Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Anybody wanna buy a guaranteed 20bhp+ mod (aka resistor.....)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 we could really do with these at work - all those millions of pounds wasted by so called egg heads in the glow discharge industry, what were they thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 So a standard spark plug wastes 999950 Watts per spark as heat? Forget nuclear fuel, we've just solved the energy the crisis - just pop a few spark plugs in the reactor space... We've been barking up the wrong tree using these things to ignite petrol, too - we should be using them to power steam turbine cars. Best bit is you can still power them off an alternator so you don't need any fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoSS Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 haahahahahahhahahahahhaha ....... what a load of cobblers. wonder how many they sell to the kevin tuning crowd... Reminds me, I need to buy some more snake-oil, my resevoir is getting low... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Noticed a couple of snake-oil stands at Bling, fortunately I wasn't drunk enough to go over and heckle them at that point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROGUE TROOPER Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 My fuel magnet and Cyclone give me 20 million miles per 1ml of fuel......if you want to know more press here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgnas Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 It's odd but "Isn't this just bol!"£$" does not appear in the FAQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Wonder if they're available from a reputable London based 4x4 company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Apparently they will be soon, and orange, Also excitingly I hear there will be a new and improved diesel version (again in orange) which are a combined Superinjectors and glowplugs giving a boost in BHP, Emmsions, start up time, and are fluffy bunny friendy and will also increase you manhood (or woman hood). The MD of the company Colon Junksteel said in a press release "Yeah, give us yer money and stop moaning about customer service alright ?" Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 So a standard spark plug wastes 999950 Watts per spark as heat? Forget nuclear fuel, we've just solved the energy the crisis - just pop a few spark plugs in the reactor space... F me no wonder V8s run pretty hot with just under 8 megawatts pouring out of the ignition system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted July 26, 2007 Share Posted July 26, 2007 Next they'll be re-inventing the flux capacitor! /Buzz lightyear voice/ "1.21 gigawatts and beyond!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoo Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 There is a big difference between peak energy and total energy, as they are completely different things. You can increase peak power by having the power applied over a shorter time span, but the total power will always be the same, as you can't create energy. As an example, I have a laser that can have a pulse time of milliseconds or nanoseconds. A focused milisecond pulse will burn a hole through paper, electrical tape and stuff like that. The focused nanosecond pulse will vaporise holes in thin metal, and even ionize air at the focal point. I imagine the difference is due to the temperature created. Could this make a difference in an engine, who knows? I imagine this plug has a hv capacitor which charges until it has the voltage needed to jump the gap. I would also hope it has very good electrodes as I imagine they will take a beating. When you deliver the same power over a shorter time span with the same voltage, current has to increase, so the peak current would have to be in the hundreds to thousands of amps, probably for nanoseconds for the claimed power. That has got to be hard on the electrodes. Here are the plugs you need: http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=...p;products_id=5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 I imagine this plug has a hv capacitor which charges until it has the voltage needed to jump the gap. Yes, I thought along the same lines when I first saw it ................. there is probably some inductance in there as well ................ its just like reinventing the wheel, capacitive discharge systems were one of the first electronic after market ignition systems many years ago .............. I guess like everything else, its just got smaller. However, although minimal, there will be time lag as the capacitor charges so the spark timing will be a little out ................ Which ever way you look at it ............... its still snake oil.........and the claims are on the wild side with little documentary evidence Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I can see that you may well be able to increase peak power output by discharging the power over a shorter space of time, but I can't see you managing to focus it enought to hit a million Watts. Even if you did, would it actually be beneficially to fire the spark for such a short space of time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoo Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 It is actually easy to hit a million watts if you have a low inductance discharge path. I have no idea if it would help at all though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 It is actually easy to hit a million watts if you have a low inductance discharge path. I have no idea if it would help at all though. Erm Seem to remember from when I was at school doing fizzicks that 1 watt is 1 joule per second so if you have a million watts thats a whole lotta energy being released somewhere and if you are doing it in 0.00001 seconds or something then surely it is completely impossible because you are adding lots of noughts back in somewhere ? My fizzicks is a bit rusty after fifteen years but I can't see that the sums add up... i.e. what jimfoo was saying up there ^^^ Happy to be corrected though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfoo Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 ErmSeem to remember from when I was at school doing fizzicks that 1 watt is 1 joule per second so if you have a million watts thats a whole lotta energy being released somewhere and if you are doing it in 0.00001 seconds or something then surely it is completely impossible because you are adding lots of noughts back in somewhere ? My fizzicks is a bit rusty after fifteen years but I can't see that the sums add up... i.e. what jimfoo was saying up there ^^^ Happy to be corrected though It's very easy to add some noughts, which is why it is easy to get that many watts. http://www.sci-spot.com/Electronic/tealaser.htm shows the simple circuit needed to get nanoseconds pulses(.000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 You lot are all so skeptical! I wouldn't rule this out entirely! Assuming the plugs work, the principle is not that different to CDI ignition, common on bikes but as yet rare on cars because it is expensive for multi cylinder engines. I once played around with getting a bit more poke out of a single cylinder engine using a DIY CDI circuit - and it worked reasonably well. If these actually do behave in the way they suggest then snake-oil they are not! How many people spend over £100 on Magnicore leads? just to get a stronger spark? Are they snake-oil too? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill van snorkle Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 These could be the answer to my prayers. If I make up "T" pieces for the spark plug holes in my cylinder head I could fit 2 of those super dooper plugs to each cylinder which should give me the power of a V8 whilst maintaining the economy of a 4 pot. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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