vinny Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Just bought an 04 disco with full LR service history... History says land rover fitted a new gearbox at 95000 miles but 16 months & 45000 miles later it starting to go again is it covered by warranty?? Before my local stealer tries to worm out of it! Can any body clarify my position or point me in the direction of an LR proceedures manual or terms and conditions for LR warranty claims? Cheers Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 A gearbox that gives up after such a short time might not be of "saleable quality". As the second owner, I am not sure how you might stand. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Just bought an 04 disco with full LR service history... History says land rover fitted a new gearbox at 95000 miles but 16 months & 45000 miles later it starting to go again is it covered by warranty??Before my local stealer tries to worm out of it! Can any body clarify my position or point me in the direction of an LR proceedures manual or terms and conditions for LR warranty claims? Cheers Vinny What's going in the box? 45k miles from a box is just daft. Did you buy it from LR? Did they supply you with a copy of the warranty? In my experience there are more exclusions than anything else in a warranty but I'd hope a gearbox is not one of them. I'd be going in nicely but firmly and asking what they are going to do about it, and stand there until you get an acceptable answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJIbex Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 To copy Gromit:- Where did you buy the vehicle from? From a private individual, independant/specialist dealer, Main dealer? and how long ago? If you haven't bought from a main dealer I would wager that you will get no support from Land Rover. If you bought privately therefore is no comeback on the individual. If you've bought from an independant/specialist there needs to be a minimum of 3 months basic warranty (what it covers is a different issue) and you could argue that the price that you paid for the vehicle did not represent the condition if that becomes a problem. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 If you haven't bought from a main dealer I would wager that you will get no support from Land Rover.If you bought privately therefore is no comeback on the individual. If you've bought from an independant/specialist there needs to be a minimum of 3 months basic warranty (what it covers is a different issue) and you could argue that the price that you paid for the vehicle did not represent the condition if that becomes a problem. Mark Agree with all that. But if the box itself came from LR and you have a LR receipt for it, then I would have thought they would be culpable for the box, regardless of where the actual vehicle was purchased?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Just bought an 04 disco with full LR service history... History says land rover fitted a new gearbox at 95000 miles but 16 months & 45000 miles later it starting to go again is it covered by warranty??Before my local stealer tries to worm out of it! Can any body clarify my position or point me in the direction of an LR proceedures manual or terms and conditions for LR warranty claims? Cheers Vinny Manufacturers warranty is 60k miles so if the vehicle has done 135k then you can forget it - I can't even imagine why they would have done it at 95k under warranty! New parts fitted are only covered by the balance of the original warranty i.e. if a new box was fitted at 30k then the warranty on it would still expire at 60k it wouldn't then be guaranteed to 90k. Pretty standard warranty policy on anything I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Just bought an 04 disco with full LR service history... History says land rover fitted a new gearbox at 95000 miles but 16 months & 45000 miles later it starting to go again is it covered by warranty??Before my local stealer tries to worm out of it! Can any body clarify my position or point me in the direction of an LR proceedures manual or terms and conditions for LR warranty claims? Cheers Vinny Sorry, but does not sound good, Your Discover would have ran out of warranty at 3 years from date of first reg, (?? around march/April this year), OR 60,000 miles, whichever is the soonest !! Sounds by your post, like someone fitted a Landrover exchange gearbox ??,, 16 months/45,000 miles ago,, This box will more that likely have had a 12 months and probably 12,000 miles warranty, both of which are now out !! I know a few years back, had a TD5 XS 2000 year,, 3 boxes in the first 3 years, the last one, was out of warranty by 7,000 miles, but under the 3 years old, NOT covered !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 I know a few years back, had a TD5 XS 2000 year,, 3 boxes in the first 3 years, the last one, was out of warranty by 7,000 miles, but under the 3 years old, NOT covered !! Sale of goods act still applies. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Projectblue Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Sale of goods act still applies.Chris Nope because you won't be able to proove that it wasn't of merchantable quality. If you went to court and fought it, there is lttle to no chance that you could prove it. 6 mths and 4,500 miles and you might have a chance. Best option is to perhaps put pressure on your local dealer to give you some good will off the cost of another box from Ashcroft but I don't think they are duty bound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJIbex Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Agree with all that. But if the box itself came from LR and you have a LR receipt for it, then I would have thought they would be culpable for the box, regardless of where the actual vehicle was purchased?? I'm guessing the vehicle is over 3 years old? Warranty is actually 3 year unlimted mileage in the UK; so if under 3 years you should be fine. I think you should also be fine if a previous owner has extended the warranty as I belive private sale allows transfer of extended warranty. If the vehicle is over 3 years old; the fact that the vehicle is outside of warranty means Land Rover have no legal obligation for the repair of the vehicle. Land Rover do often support repairs after warranty expiration; but not usually when the vehicle has been bought from other than a main dealer or if servicing has been carried out elsewhere. Just my experience; you have nothing to loose by trying though. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Nope because you won't be able to proove that it wasn't of merchantable quality. If you went to court and fought it, there is lttle to no chance that you could prove it. 6 mths and 4,500 miles and you might have a chance. I was refering to Tim's case really. As I said in my first post you would be on shakey ground with SOG... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 I bought it private and the price reflected the work required on the gearbox. Ive a list of about 5 pages from the LR main dealer listing all parts/work done to the vehicle from new. At 95000 miles they fitted a new gearbox and acknowledged at last service dated 01/06/07(137883miles) "confirmed noise vehicle requires gearbox" The replacement gearbox was fitted 16/03/06(94743miles)"Knocking noise in all gears - replace g/box unit" The first entry on the history is dated 18/02/04 Check outstanding campaign 'A155' I bought the disco knowing the gearbox wasnt great and found out afterwards that it already had a gearbox fitted so figured the gearbox should be covered under some sortof warranty.. parts only n Id cover the labour....... Its sounds like wishfull thinking but gona chance my arm a bit ! Figure it will be down to the indivudal dealer to decide!!! Anybody have a listing for all the LR stealers in Ireland?? Have disco ... will travel Vinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Anybody have a listing for all the LR stealers in Ireland?? Have disco ... will travel LR Dealer Locator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromit Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 So, the first gearbox died, and the second one is now following suit ? A bit mad that. I assume you know about Ashcrofts if and when you have to get a new box yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny Posted August 17, 2007 Author Share Posted August 17, 2007 So, the first gearbox died, and the second one is now following suit ? A bit mad that.I assume you know about Ashcrofts if and when you have to get a new box yourself Yea got all the bits I needed to rebuild a transfer box for my 90 of them. Gona have a go with this R380 if I cant get LR to fix it. Its part of the fun!!!! What would be invloved in fitting an auto box instead?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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