Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Since removing the anti-roll bars on my 300tdi Discovery on the advice of a forumeer/SLRC member, I have gained a little more axle articulation than I had before. As such, even the gentle bumps and twisters at Bunny Lane caused me to disclocate the rear springs twice in one day at this month's play day, necessitating the careful application of a high lift jack and a shovel to relocate said cones. I'm on standard height (though heavy duty) suspension. I'm not sure how far they disclocated, but it was enough that the spring got caught on the outside of the spring mount. I only found out after I'd got through whatever caused it, rather than stopping at the time to have a look-see. This has brought me to the conclusion that I am in need of some kind of clever spring relocation device. Having checked the forum for previous discussions, I found some threads a couple of years old that came to the conclusion that they could not come to a conclusion which type was best. Has the thinking changed? I'm not too bothered about which is easiest to fit, 'cos I'm probably going to have to remove the springs either way. Most places seem to sell the pointy-downy ones and are about £30 ish for a pair (does it matter if they are the tube-type or the made-out-of-flat-metal-type?). The only place I've seen the sticky-uppy ones is on the Gwyn Lewis website but there is no price listed. So far I've had two verbal votes for each type, which doesn't really help! I would like to make a decision before I get to Sodbury so I can go looking for bargains... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Attryde Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Neither get some X-springs from X-eng (Simonr) much neater solution. Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Neither get some X-springs from X-eng (Simonr) much neater solution. Pete. I'd better go and rob a bank then As much as I would like to have some X-Springs, my budget won't stretch that far!! Unless, perhaps Simon would like to see how they perform on a bog-standard Discovery. I'm happy to do some testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ1 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I ues the d44 relocation cones and have never had a problem with them. http://www.devon4x4.com/shop.php?mode=prod...=7&subcat=6 I have never seen anybody using the other type of cones ( not to say there is anything wrong with them tho ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 The devon top mounted ones come very close to the floor of te car on a disco. Mine are actually touching I think. As I understand it, both ways work, so if you are on a budget and see a bargain, then get them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Make your own bottom up ones. I made my own for a few pence worth of scrap and some flat bar. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Baldwin Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Bog Standard Discovery? If you're running standard springs there's an even simpler solution that'll cost you 30p rather than £30. Use jubilee clips to secure the top coil to the top spring mount. Job done. Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Bog Standard Discovery? If you're running standard springs there's an even simpler solution that'll cost you 30p rather than £30. Use jubilee clips to secure the top coil to the top spring mount. Job done.Kev Are they strong enough for that? Do you fit them tight or lose enough to allow a little movement but not enough for the spring to come all the way out of the mount? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandyManLuke Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Or climbing/sailing 'string', even cheaper! Mine were lashed in as an emergency when they first started popping out. the lashings have been there for about 2 years now, i've never got round to sorting them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeppimp Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 how's about the farmer's friend baler twine - free used it on my old 90 and it lasted (6 months or so of RTVs and still fitted when I sold it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Baldwin Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Are they strong enough? Used them on my old Bowler racer for 5yrs and never bust one. Tighten them tight. If you want a bit of bling, use stainless clips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 If you want a bit of bling, use stainless clips! Bling? It's 13 years old, has a dent in the roof (I didn't put it there!), dents on the rear quarter from a tree (err, yes I did put that there!) and is scratched to b***ery. I don't think bling will be an issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Murphy Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Jubilee clips are the cheap and cheerful solution Had them on mine for many years. Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 If I go the jubliee clip route, how many do I use? Two on each (one towards the front and one towards the back)? With the limited space between mounting and bodywork, will the screw bit fit on top, or does it have to go under the spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Tight, use three. I used to have D44 (Gingetech) top mounted. Very noisy but they worked okay. Now have Mountain Goat LRS (lower relocation system) from Laing(S.Wales Inc), really nice, quiet and smooth... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Laing(S.Wales Inc) Err, who? Is that he of the grey 100 inch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Yup; Lord High Priest Of the 100" LR. As it so happens I have a set of his rumbunctious LRS's in the garage that need returning to His Lordship, if you required them and he agreed I could drop them up to Sodders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Yup; Lord High Priest Of the 100" LR.As it so happens I have a set of his rumbunctious LRS's in the garage that need returning to His Lordship, if you required them and he agreed I could drop them up to Sodders Mmmmm, tempting. Depends on the renumeration required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 PM the old cheese monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 PM the old cheese monkey PM sent. Do you have any pictures of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orgasmic Farmer Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Regarding jubilee clips, When I changed spings on the back of the Disco I was too lazy to change the disclocation cones over at same time so fixed the springs in with 2 jubilees per side. Out laning one day and did some technical stuff before driving off up a grassy slope. Didn't feel quite right and on looking found one spring completely gone! Spent next 10 minutes searching for it (it had rolled into the bracken!). So anyway, just a word of caution, use 3 clips and make sure they are proper 'Jubilee' and not Screwfix-budget ones :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 PM the old cheese monkey Less of the "old", Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roverdrive Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Been using 1 clip per spring for a number of years trialling now with no problem. My springs are +2" and uprated to cope with the extra weight on the back from the gas tanks and rear protection system. My main concern tho is the tension being applied to the lower spring mounting plate, as it is not designed for this. Now I have spat the dummy with the ALRC I will probably save up for the x eng solution. On a different topic, sorry not been in touch for the +2" brake lines Dave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiWhite Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 Thread Hijack Alert - I've got a pair of Scrapiron dislocation cones that could be available if you decide to go that route. PM me for details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Mr Hobbit, David's answer was in the affirmative. Could you bring them along to Sodbury and I'll have a look see. I don't know exactly where I'll be cos I'm looking for lots of stuff. I'll PM my mobile number and we can text a meet. Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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