Tonk Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 has anyone replaced bellhousing crossmember with something removeable? if so piccies? wot did u use etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Sorry Tonk, I haven't but I'm about to do the gearbox one. I got a ready-made bolt in crossmember from Designa (who made my chassis) - I'll just chop the old one out and weld in the new mounts in the correct place. If I was going to do the bellhousing one, I'd copy the system (2 brackets welded to the main chassis rails) and cut the old member out as neatly as I could and weld on some corresponding bolt holes to mate with the newly added brackets on the chassis. I guess I'd add some beef to the crossmember while I was there, assuming it didn't foul with the bellhousing or anything. Probably doesn't help much, but at least I keep your question at the top of the list! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted November 7, 2005 Author Share Posted November 7, 2005 well i'm thinkin removeable incase it gets damaged, also to gain some clearance under there, thats always the first one to get bent on a series. am now thinking weld brackets onto chassis and using thick material (probably 1/2" plate) as the crossmember , but have some form in there to make it nice and strong. also move it forwards a bit closer to the upsweep of the chassis. got any pics of your boltable one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minivin Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Would the DVLA have any issues about modifying a structural area on the chassis? just thinking if that would come under SVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Would the DVLA have any issues about modifying a structural area on the chassis? just thinking if that would come under SVA No.......DVLA points scheme applies. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Agreed. No. Think it's ok - you can repair it after all! Tonk, can do pics, but only on Dec 2nd when I'm next back. Knowing you, you'll have it done by then... If not, I'll bung you some, but it's exactly as you'd imagine it! Direct copy of the crossmember, but instead of welding it in, it has flanges with holes in for bolting to 2 included metal brackets which you weld to the chassis (I need to move my crossmember for different gearbox, hence the new one on a new chassis!). Yeah good idea - you could raise it up a bit defo (maybe it needs to be angled sort of backwards round the bellhousing, rather than downwards under it. Maybe bolt a plate to the bottom of it which *just* hangs under the bellhousing for a bit of protection - rather that than crack/smash the housing. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 As long as there's a crossmember there, then shape and how it's attached only apply for the MOT. I would suggest a second gearbox x-member attached the military way. As long as it doesn't foul the bell housing/flywheel housing, then I don't see any problem at all. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Tonk, I seem to remember years ago that Chris Perfect did something like this in LROi. From memory he used some pretty heavy stuff, maybe 20mm, by the width of the x members, & bent to the shape of the top of the x member. Can't remember how he attached it to the chassis but I seem to remember he attached a plate between the two to enable him to skid off humps etc. I guess he gained about 30-40mm extre clearance too. I'll have a look thru my carefully filed back copies & see if I can spot it. Hopefully someone else might be able to find it b4 me Cheers, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Found it, August 1999 LROi, page163, he used 100mm x 20mm for the bell housing X member & 75mm x 20mm for the g/box X member. In his case he welded flitch plates on the chassis & welded the Xmembers to these, & because he'd forgot to drill & tap the X members, he had to weld the 10mm plate on as well. The plate had a turn up just behind the sump so it woudn't dig in.( Try dropping the G/box out with that set up ) I'm sure a man of your capability with fabrication could work out a way to make them detachable Tonk, CP reckons he got an extra 2" clearance like this. HTH, Cheers, Steve. PS Question for the mods. Whats the go with scanning & posting a picture out of something like LRO, can we do this without leaving the forum open to charges of copyright abuse? I'm happy to scan & post the pic which goes with the article if thats OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 I think if you also type 'courtesy of LROi' then I think the worst that could happen is they would ask us to remove the picture. It seems unlkely as we are promoting their magazine in a way. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Thanks for that Les, heres the pic of the set up Chris Perfect had in his SIIa trialler, picture is from the issue of LROi as mentioned in the post above. An invaluable reference source Hope this is usueful Tonk, Cheers, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 all interesting ideas, i dont think i'd go for the complete skid plate, even though its a good idea it would trap so much mud. i like the idea of the 20mm plate for the xmember though, although i'd have mine bolt on i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Some chassis brackets like the military removable X members have, some tube welded across the 20mm X-members & away you go, but I bet you'd already sorted that, hey! Cheers, Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted November 8, 2005 Author Share Posted November 8, 2005 brackets on the chassis rails isn't a prob i've done a bit of welding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Tonk, I'm going 'home' this weekend - do you still want a photo of my removeable crossmember? Let me know before Friday. Cheers, Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 yes please, i haven't got round to doin it yet, Xmas break looks like when i'll do it, at the same time i take my cage off for a rehash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Tonk, One visit to my house, and your infected with the HFH Virus, 12mm 20mm plate ? And you take the P^ss out of me and the weight iof my truck I feel a weighbridge visit coming on soon for you young man Nige PS I do have a selection of the thicker type "Repair Sections", PM me if you need some ? Hmmmmmm, might even change my title B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Tonk,One visit to my house, and your infected with the HFH Virus, 12mm 20mm plate ? And you take the P^ss out of me and the weight iof my truck I feel a weighbridge visit coming on soon for you young man Nige PS I do have a selection of the thicker type "Repair Sections", PM me if you need some ? Hmmmmmm, might even change my title B) i'll weigh it once i've finished 'tweaking' some bits change your title? hmmmm i think i've done mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 We will have to compare and own up to weighbridge tickets, then I feel you might have to change ones title again, mighten one ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 without driver yours will be lighter, with driver.......need i say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 "well atleast mines not finished in primer" Actually its Slate Grey - AKA Gloss Primer to give it its real name Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Gives a good key for rollering it NATO green........plus casue yours is all blingy and straight you wont have Tonk's problem with the roller not reaching the bottom of the dents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 OI, i use a brush now, just as quick really........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 Actually its Slate Grey - AKA Gloss Primer to give it its real name Nige looks like a battleship to me, also no good offroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 looks like a battleship to me, Think you've lived in pompey too long Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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