RAF-mechanic Posted November 27, 2007 Posted November 27, 2007 Hello folks... i was wondering if anyone could help with a problem i have... I bought an old Range Rover a few months back, was a decent looking and running motor when i bought it. I only planned on using it for towing other cars around as i do alot of this. She was running fine when i first got her (apart from using a ridiculous amount of fuel), but after leaving her standing for a few weeks, she decided not to start and ended up flooding. The vehicle is a 1989 Range Rover Vogue, 3.5 litre V8 petrol... I took the plugs out, cleaned them and left them over night. On returning to her in the morning... i replaced the plugs etc etc.... and she started first time. I left her running for a while to clear any excess, but once i put her into drive... pfftt she cut out and wouldnt start again... once again the plugs were soaked and she was stinking of fuel... there is a decent spark... but i am putting new coil, plugs and leads on (as i got them for free) Also considered checking the coolant temp sensor... I am not very clued up on these vehicles if honest... and am a diesel fitter... but aint bad with petrols... if anyone can help me with this id appreciate any comments... cheers for your time folks Chris Quote
V8david Posted November 28, 2007 Posted November 28, 2007 I also have a 1989 3.5 v8. Check the amplifier module (little black electric connector box) on the side of the distributor. If you can get hold of one and try it on yours perhaps, or just buy one, think they're quite cheap anyway. Quote
FridgeFreezer Posted November 28, 2007 Posted November 28, 2007 Coolant temperature sensor is cheap and not too stressful to replace, apart form that the airflow meter could be dodgy, I'd advise trying to borrow a known good one. There is an EFI fault finding manual in the tech archive (there's one for flapper and one for hotwire type systems) the best thing is to work though that methodically. Quote
teabag Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 If u have difficult starting and when u get the engine started there's a lot of black smoke from the exhaust then suspect the ECU is failing, the engine will also to stall sometimes as well when hot, a bit inconvenient with an auto. The ECU was the problem on my RR I also changed the coolent temp sensor as I thought that was faulty, it wasn't. Quote
paintman Posted December 1, 2007 Posted December 1, 2007 How old is the fuel and have you tried replacing with fresh petrol? Might sound strange but petrol will deteriorate to the point where the car won't run. Something to bear in mind for those of us on LPG! Also flagged up on http://go-lpg.co.uk/hints.html Quote
donkshophorse Posted December 2, 2007 Posted December 2, 2007 I had the same symptoms recently. Very annoying! My mechanics discovered (after some fairly impressive testing diagnostics were completed) that the MAF was at fault. Cost new £720.00. Once I came round from fainting I decided to buy one online for £59.00 + p&p. I reckon it’s a refurb or aftermarket item but at that price I’ve go to try it! I suggest your symptoms are very similar to mine and that may be what’s at fault. items that were checked ok: coil, plugs, leads, stepper motor, tps, ecu, coolant temp thermistor, fuel pressure regulator - hence air flow meter at fault 1990 vogue se auto on lpg Quote
RAF-mechanic Posted December 15, 2007 Author Posted December 15, 2007 Thankyou all for your ideas, i have managed to get the vehicle running but it is still tempremental... i am going to try a few of the suggestions made (starting with the cheapest).. the car isnt my daily drive so not in to much of a rush to sort it out but it does get used... anyway thankyou all for your help... Chris Quote
DC_ Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 How did you get on with your problem RAF? sorry for the late reply but i have been in OZ having fun. DC Quote
ebeasant Posted January 15, 2008 Posted January 15, 2008 Fuel Injection Fault Finding Manual: Using little more than a multimeter, you can check and verify most parts of the 14CUX system. My money is on the coolant/fuel temp sensor. If its a cold wet day, you might *just* have a dizzycap/rotor arm problem. Mine did this for 2 weeks and even exploded my exhaust (literally - its a gas conversion) until out of desperation I simply swapped out the cap and rotor arm. If she's got Lambdas (look on the exhaust downpipes for a stub with 3 wires coming out of it, then they can cause excessive fuel consumption and problematic restarts. And make it idle like a sack of something!. MAF is fairly easy to check basic operation, actual calibration is another matter. I'll dig out the PDF I have of the diagnostic manual, Cheers, Edwin Quote
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