LR finally admits there's a problem with the 2.4 defender

[Guest diesel_jim]

Sorry for the cross forum posting, but this will interest a lot of new defender owners!

It's about the propshaft hitting the sump. there's a .pdf service bulletin there to download too.

actually, i'll paste it here for non LRA members.

Coppa2.pdf

[JST]

Jim - i have been looking for that PDF for ages - cheers

[Guest WALFY]

So will they recall or is it a case of when it next goes in they'll change it if it has witness marks? Need to get mine out and about then

[Top90]

Thanks Jim.

[LandyManLuke]

So will they recall or is it a case of when it next goes in they'll change it if it has witness marks? Need to get mine out and about then

It says on the lra post - there's no recall, you need to go and complain of 'a noise underneath' preferably with the witness marks there ready and waiting - If it was me i'd just print off the pdf and take it in with me.

[JST]

i also heard there is to be no recall, you need to do ^^^^^ i would take the pdf with me then ask them why they denied knowing about it hey Tim!

[cipx2]

They kind of admitted it since last year in October (or even earlier) when they decided to design a new sump: http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?s=&s...st&p=195818

[western]

If the Transit engine had been correctly reengineered for Defender & fully tested this wouldn't have happened, cheap ford engines.

[TJ101]

My local dealer is already on the case,,

Did mention it, when it was last in, and they of course denied all knowledge !!

They now have the Bulletin number, so no excuse,

Now where did i put that knocking stick !!!

PS Thanks Jim

[Guest diesel_jim]

So will they recall or is it a case of when it next goes in they'll change it if it has witness marks? Need to get mine out and about then

why not jack the front up, remove a road spring and lower it down...dent the sump (or wrap the propshaft in sandpaper and spin it a bit!!)

[Happyoldgit]

I think it would be less hassle to explain that as the vehicle is likely be used severely in future and in light of the recognised problem you want the new pan fitted.

[MRWOO]

I wonder if once the new pan is installed the oil level on the dipstock is affected, i.e not accurate?

[headhunter]

A similar problem to the International 2.8TGV engine.

M&D Engineering do an exchange sump modified to overcome the problem.

On mine the propshaft used to clip the dipstick pipe where it entered the sump, when the suspension was compressed (eg. speed bumps etc.).

John

[Guest diesel_jim]

There's even a page on LR Oh now, no doubt they'll soon be stating how the modified sump is the best thing that LR have ever come out with and how they spent millions out in Iceland and the Mojabe desert testing them.

[Daniel TD5]

is it just left hand drive model that are affected

as the technical bulletin is titled defender (LD) ?

dan

[Guest diesel_jim]

is it just left hand drive model that are affected

as the technical bulletin is titled defender (LD) ?

dan

I think LHD models are more likely to suffer from the problem, due apparently to the panhard rod being mounted on the oter side of the chassis, but in relation to the above quesion, "LD" is the VIN suffix for Landrover Defender

[cipx2]

No, it affects both LHDs and RHDs.

LD comes from the 4th and 5th characters in the VIN and it designates a Defender, as LJ designates a Disco, LN a Freeby, LP a Range Rover.

Nobody would use "LD" instead of "LHD", unless a world shortage of ink or something

P.S. Jim was quicker ...

[JSG]

Hmmm - phone call time then.

[oneten110]

If the Transit engine had been correctly reengineered for Defender & fully tested this wouldn't have happened, cheap ford engines.

More like lack of proper testing by Land Rover

[ollie nz]

glad I didnt trade up my 03 to an 08

[Trevor Wright]

Does anyone know for sure whether current production Defenders have the new oil pan fitted and hence this is, for them, a non-problem.

Or, are LR still fitting the old pan and only changing when they get an incident or a complaint. I have a friend with a 90 HT about to be delivered, which could well go seriously off-roading. I told him to get the dealer to check the tank breather pipe relocation had been done, I wonder if I need to tell him about this problem as well?

Thanks

[Happyoldgit]

glad I didnt trade up my 03 to an 08

I'm glad I did.

[Daniel TD5]

i am glad too

it can blow steam full apart drip oil i don't care as i don't pay for any repairs Land Rover do and when its broke i get a nice hire car

so i love my broken made by drunks on a friday after noon defender

daniel

[TJ101]

glad I didnt trade up my 03 to an 08

I am so glad i did as well ,

Only thing i miss is the front panel vents,, certainly nothing else !!

[JSG]

And I'm glad I traded - the Puma is much better