Les Henson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 On the news this morning. The latest Nissan Nivara only got one star in the EuroNCAP test. The air bag is slow to inflate, poor seat belt location, and the crumple zone is poor - especially with regard to the drivers feet. Nissan say that customers chould contact them if they have any problems, so I suppose if you have a crash you then go to the dealers with a bashed-in face and broken feet to complain? Bluddy ridiculous In the crash test video it shows the dummys head go under the air bag and nut the steering wheel! Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkw90 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Just seen that on the news , lots of p***ed off builders today wishing they got a Land Rover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 In the crash test video it shows the dummys head go under the air bag and nut the steering wheel!Les. Thats coz they're dummies... they don't kow how to crash properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Just seen that on the news , lots of p***ed off builders today wishing they got a Land Rover Errr, and a Defender gets how many ENCAP stars exactly...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discojmz Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 'One of the main reasons why Land Rover is still able to build the Defender in this day and age is that it’s classified by the European Union and FIA as a light commercial vehicle rather than a passenger car. Because of this, Land Rover is able to bypass the NCAP passenger and pedestrian safety tests' so in short, it hasnt been tested. but then they cant say the airbag is rubbish or the crumple zones arent any good... because it has neither Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Freak Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 -2 I recon you are being generous Tony.... I'm not even sure that our Land Rovers get EuroNCAP, more like "CAP".... When you got your CAP on, what other protection will you need in a Land Rover ? Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 When it comes to Defender safety, I think you missed an "R" out Neil......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bull Bar Cowboy Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 On the news this morning.The latest Nissan Nivara only got one star in the EuroNCAP test. The air bag is slow to inflate, poor seat belt location, and the crumple zone is poor - especially with regard to the drivers feet. Nissan say that customers chould contact them if they have any problems, so I suppose if you have a crash you then go to the dealers with a bashed-in face and broken feet to complain? Bluddy ridiculous In the crash test video it shows the dummys head go under the air bag and nut the steering wheel! Les. From what I hear, then engine isn't much better either ................. a lot seem to like throwing a conrod with no warning at between 60 - 90K .............. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 From what I hear, then engine isn't much better either ................. a lot seem to like throwing a conrod with no warning at between 60 - 90K ..............Ian The Conrod issue is the previous model... The D22 which ended in 2005. The current model (D40) had typical teething problems that required entire back axles to be replaced, dual mass flywheel / clutchs needing replaced at 12k miles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Defenders are actually really good in crashes....ask me how i know!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_neutron Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Defenders are actually really good in crashes....ask me how i know!!! This is gonna be funny innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Hmmm just thinking about NCAP testing, wouldn't this affect the new CSWs? If so then they would have been tested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 This is gonna be funny innit I didn't think so at the time...in fact i still don't, but the point is I'm alive to tell the tail despite a 40mph crash into a stationary van (t**t didn't have working brake lights), and 3 cars (not one of my finer moments but we all make mistakes, and that was mine!) - the landy was totalled as I bent the chassis, however i walked away with little more than a bruised cheek and a bit of shock - testament that you don't need air bags and crumple zones, a good sturdy vehicle is just as good, but i really don't recommend decelerating from 40 - 0 in 2ft, it actually hurts a fair bit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy_neutron Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I didn't think so at the time...in fact i still don't, but the point is I'm alive to tell the tail despite a 40mph crash into a stationary van (t**t didn't have working brake lights), and 3 cars (not one of my finer moments but we all make mistakes, and that was mine!) - the landy was totalled as I bent the chassis, however i walked away with little more than a bruised cheek and a bit of shock - testament that you don't need air bags and crumple zones, a good sturdy vehicle is just as good, but i really don't recommend decelerating from 40 - 0 in 2ft, it actually hurts a fair bit! That is really impressive ... 40mph crash and thats all it did. Shame about the chassis bend .. Will ya not fix her back up ? She looks a nice van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 All it did.....imagine trying to bend a chassis...takes a fair bit of doing, it also creased almost every panel the whole way back and what you cant see from the pic sis the mashed suspension, steering, engine and front axle! She was indeed nice a lovely '04 TD5 CSW, however she was written off, and i was paid handsomely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 All it did.....imagine trying to bend a chassis...takes a fair bit of doing, it also creased almost every panel the whole way back and what you cant see from the pic sis the mashed suspension, steering, engine and front axle! She was indeed nice a lovely '04 TD5 CSW, however she was written off, and i was paid handsomely. Damn! i'd have given you a set of 205's on rusty steel rims and a wad of cash for those alloys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilIT Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 wonder how long before its back on the road via someone who bought it from one of the salvage dealers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Surely the EuroNCap is voluntary? The Pathfinder is pretty much the same as the Navara.(sharing over 90% of components) Builders may not worry but I am sure the mums in their Pathfinders will buy Disco's instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie69 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Euro NCAP is done by 'secret shoppers', to stop manufacturers 'fettling' some cars to work better. Their site only lists 4 vehicles, none of which is the Defender.... http://www.euroncap.com/carsearch.aspx?mak...b6-574a938c80cd Guess they don't care about it in that case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 wonder how long before its back on the road via someone who bought it from one of the salvage dealers... Who knows the accident was a year ago, its definitely not using its old reg plates tho. They did want an obscene amount of money for the salvage, i didn't want to buy it back, so i purchased someone elses crashed TD5 instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Wasn't there an insurance industry report a while back saying that you were more likely to walk away from an accident in a Defender than any other car? It would be interesting to crash test a Defender with rockslider sills and full rollcage and see what happened If all cars were equiped with a big shiney sharp spike in the centre of the steering wheel road safety would change overnight. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheeppimp Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 If all cars were equiped with a big shiney sharp spike in the centre of the steering wheel road safety would change overnight. don't forget to ban seatbelts too....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 The Conrod issue is the previous model... The D22 which ended in 2005. There were not that many examples of that problem in reality.....but bad news travels fast The current model (D40) had typical teething problems that required entire back axles to be replaced, dual mass flywheel / clutchs needing replaced at 12k miles... Problems with dual mass flywheels.....erm.......TD5 Discovery 2 anyone? ......see what I mean about bad news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyn668 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Smo, It looks like the passenger cell was pretty intact in your crash. Any footwell intrusion? Any movement of the steering wheel towards your face? I have to concur with "That's all it did?" When you look at the state of most cars which are crash tested at 30mph into a barrier during the NCAP tests, they look a lot worse than your Defender, at least externally, although they should have reasonably intact passenger cells. (unless they are a Gee-Whizz) Martyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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