The Badger Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 It's a 90 with a September Reg, I have read about the gearbox problems and am wondering if I should take it back to get the gearbox sorted. Anyone got some tips on how to recognize this gearbox issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Could be the input gear/shaft, but possibly other things, such as A-frame ball joint, drivehsaft/flange, diff backlash, bushes worn, so you need to determine what it is before forking out on a new box. Generally - lying underneath while someone else tries to run you over identifies where the clunk is coming from. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiFonics Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Surely if it's this new the main stealer will look at it for free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 yeah I was going to go back to "them", but they really are such D1ck's... Anyhow, I did hear about new 07 gearbox issues, just trying to find out what. As it clunks going into gear, so whilst taking foot off clutch, but only if you do it slightly or really quick. If you do it real carful then it is generally ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 What gearbox issues? The clunk on the new model and driving technique to minimize it has been discussed here before back last year when a few of us bought new ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 This is what im checking, as I know how to drive it with out making it go clunk and it is a technique that is fine to use as it's almost like timing the gear shifts. What I was asking was if anyone had heard of such issues. And i am sorry, last year I missed that particular thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRWOO Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I know exactly what you mean; I don’t think there is a real problem once you get to driving it smoothly. As a tip change gear at the following ( I used to always change at a particular RPM i.e 2200ish) mph it works really well for me and the gear change is faultless. 2nd > 3rd 20mph 3rd > 4th 30mph 4th > 5th 40mph 5th > 6th 50mph Spotted the pattern yet? If I was to take a guess at what the problem is with the clunk I would say it has something to do with the engine over rev after the throttle is lifted, you may notice a slight blip in revs especially when accelerating hard. I have also just remembered that after I had been off road in low range and I returned to the road in high range there was an abnormal clunk in the transmission. At the next set of lights (on red) I dropped it into low range rocked it forward to put pressure on the transmission and then put it back into high range ready for the lights to change. The clunk was gone, there could be be alot more to this than I thought at the time and this may be the cause of a few peoples concerns. Are there any TD5 drivers that have had the same issue after going from low to high range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alantd Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 When we refer to a *clunk* are we talking about a one-off noise - a metallic bang? When the car is properly warmed up (20 mins or so), I get a banging or shunting in the transmission when I come to a stop. It feels like the engine or transmission rocking on its mounts. It only happens when properly warm and only when I depress the clutch and the engine revs are allowed to drop. I wondered whether the revs were dying too fast and the antistall was kicking in - it has that sort of shudder about it. Am I refering to something different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 It is a strange clunk, it only happens when changing gear. Does not matter if the engine is warm or not. You can time the gear shifts to avoid this clunk with the revs being around 1500 ish, and being real gently on the shifts, and I have noticed the pattern. The motor generally does run best at: 2nd - 20/30 3rd - 30/40 4th - 40/50 5th - 50/60 6th - 60/80 Anyway, the clunk. When pressing the accelerator and dipping the clutch, if you keep the revs high then the gears will clunk when you depress the clutch. It feels as if the engine is going to quickly for the gears to step up, and when it drops into the gear this the slows the engine down and you get the clunk. It is a bit disconcerting and im am glad there is someone else experiencing this. I guess Im trying to find out if it was a common 'problem', or just my truck. Also I did hear that Land Rover changed the gearbox sometime in October, has anyone else heard this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 And i am sorry, last year I missed that particular thread... Not to worry, I had a brief look and couldn't find it either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyoldgit Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 There is certainly a different gearchange technique required compared to the TD5's ....much in the same way as I found I needed to adapt a bit when I went from 300Tdi etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I get the clunk specially when shifting from 4th to 5th, despite the system is warm....It would be interesting to check if LR did change/modified the gearbox during last time. Mine was built in june. I have 5k now but I think I´ll wait until the 10k service to get fix this problem, oil leaking from the gearbox and the sump issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 having now 7000 miles on the Puma, the clunk when changing gears got really noticeable. I wonder if somebody found out if it is the gearbox or the TC. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Badger Posted October 8, 2008 Author Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hi Since this post, my gearbox developed a 'bag of spanners' rattle. Took it in to the dealer for a service anyway, and they change the gearbox? and the oil sump without asking, I was happy (took it to a service center, not a dealer who sell's the vehicles) Anyway, I still get this clunking, it's not the exhaust I know that, it could be prop shafts, as the gears change fine, but its like a jault in the transmission, as when you bring the clutch back up, the inertia, is what is making the clunk / drive train somewhere? So it's not the gearbox.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spcollins Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 We had the very same clunk. Turned out to be the drive members / flanges and we changed all 4. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsbok Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I'd noticed the same clunk getting gradually worse after the vehicle had done about 22,000 km. A couple of days ago I noticed a significant oil leak from the transfer box, so the whole thing is back at the dealer for investigation. Ruaraidh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie1989 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I get exactly the same on my 25,000 mile TD5... UJ's and Props are nice and tight, no play. Put it down to drive flanges at the wheels or the a-frame joints etc. Funny you should mention it, I've not heard it for ages! As the saying goes - just turn the music up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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