landrover598 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 right then, i think that from the advice i recied from the old board, it would be best to go for a full external cage around the hard top i'm planing on welding the mounts onto the chassis soon and was wondering what you guys recomend as a minimum bolt size / rating/ quantity to use on each of the mounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 HFH is your man his cage will be here when earth destroys itself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Brock Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Dave, Mines Arc spec, front uses the Bulkhead bolts, the rear hoop and rear stays use 4 x M10....8.8 bolts on each mounting to the chassis, all mounted to feet in 6mm plate welded to the chassis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 The ARC site is a good reference http://www.the-arc.co.uk/new%20regulations/rbindex.htm All bolts should be 8.8 grade. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted August 6, 2005 Author Share Posted August 6, 2005 Thanks for that great link i'm planning on bolting the front hoop down (from underneath) onto the plate wrapped around the end of the bulkhead outrigger what size would this need to be M12 ? M16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Mine was based loosely on the Safety Devices Camel Spec one internally (but bigger tubing) and externally incorporates full length protection to the roof. Fixings are generally from the ARC spec as are tube spec (ARC.) The compromise I wasn't happy about is the join between the internal and external at the 'B' hoop, I would have prefered 4 bolts but theres just not space. The way to improve this would be to have extra braces from the A to B externall as the Camel ones do and have the internal/external link higher up the roof on the flat section. For low speed rolls I am sure mine will be fine though. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 about time it saw some action I reckon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Tell me about it! I was going out tonight but got busy and ended up staying home... Maybe monday... Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 monday? I'm off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 We used M12's throughout. Thought about M16's but the head size is too big and so you cant trun the bolts. Look at the pics Nigel posted on the other forum for more details. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I notice some have truck cab external cages over softtop. I guess you can still get the canvas on/off but can you reove/refit the softtop hoops with the cage in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrbitalPear Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Just properly truck-cab it and be done. Its a better class of Land Rover owner that drive truck cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Sorry but I just find truck cabs claustrophobic and I like the versatility of being able to fit 3man/full/no tilt depending on what I'm doing/carrying. Nce LWT though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 The problem with a truck cab is that all my stuff will get wet / niked or lost. I prefer a hard top so i can keep my stuff dry and safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 I'll do a new post on the Rear / Front Cage and Mounts when I get a mo Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exmoor Beast Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Leave Mo alone! Where is he anyway? Will B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJL Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Will Who made your cage and if you dont mind me asking what sort of cost was it? Anyone know if Safety Devices is up and running again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Yes Safety Devices is up and running again under a new company name, so I assume that they wound the old one up owing suppliers etc. Now operating out of an office in Newmarket with production now in Poland. Can't see how lower labour/manufacturing costs are going to work though. Always seemed to me that it was poor marketing and Mgmt that let it down not the products or skilled workforce. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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