MogLite Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 For the peeps in the UK This is going to be the darkest weekend of the winter, the shortest day is early next week. <Grabs coat> We've almost got over the worst of the winter........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ101 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 For the peeps in the UKThis is going to be the darkest weekend of the winter, the shortest day is early next week. <Grabs coat> We've almost got over the worst of the winter........... Well, i am off to spain sometime next week to play with the boat ,, hopefully a little warmer !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Errr... Andy, the winter solstice is the 21st December. Unless my calendar is WAY out, we've got to wait a little longer yet... Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Errr... Andy, the winter solstice is the 21st December. Unless my calendar is WAY out, we've got to wait a little longer yet... Al. He's got you there Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MogLite Posted December 9, 2005 Author Share Posted December 9, 2005 He's got you there Andy You'd think so, but...... The sunset time is the earliest around 12/13/14th December. I think Al is talking about France, or some strange Paegan festival where he dresses up in animal skins etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8CAMEL Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 He's got you there Andy which is why christians celebrate their day on the ancient pagan day of 25th december. this is the first day which you can see a difference in the length of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I thought it was all to do with some geazer with a frigid mother and a star not some bunch of tree huggers round a bunch of stones in freezing wiltshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Hmm, sorry Andy, although the earliest sunset occurs a little before the solstice as you say, the latest sunrise occurs proportionally AFTER the solstice, making the shortest day ON the solstice (sort of the average of the two). Have to wear your double-insulated rubber sailor's outfit for a bit longer I'm afraid... Of course the earlier minimum sunset time does mean you get longer evenings a little sooner, which is good, but then you lose it again before the next winter solstice, so you don't get anything for free! Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8CAMEL Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I thought it was all to do with some geazer with a frigid mother and a star not some bunch of tree huggers round a bunch of stones in freezing wiltshire. they hijacked the pagan festival and decided that was when he was born. Have you noticed that 2000 yrs later they still cant work out what date he died. Easter keeps moving every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 It's because of the tilt of the Earths axis of rotation relative to the sun. If the sun is over the equator, the 'terminator' - that is the line between night and day over the planet's surface, not the metal politician with a Uzi 9mm and a dodgy German accent - is perpedicular (90 degrees) to the equator. If the sun dips below the equator (by the nutation of the Earths rotation axis - which is where our seasons come from), the illuminated patch on the sphere of the planet no longer has an 'edge line' - the terminator again - that is perpendicular to the equator. Therefore, sunset occurs at different times for places at the same longitude (e.g. same time zone) for any time of year other than the equinoxes (equini?!?). So you (maybe) can envisage that the sunrise and sunset times kind of slip past each other - the difference becoming greatest at a solstice, and zero at an equinox. Hope that clears it up a bit? Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 It's because of the tilt of the Earths axis of rotation relative to the sun.If the sun is over the equator, the 'terminator' - that is the line between night and day over the planet's surface, not the metal politician with a Uzi 9mm and a dodgy German accent - is perpedicular (90 degrees) to the equator. If the sun dips below the equator (by the nutation of the Earths rotation axis - which is where our seasons come from), the illuminated patch on the sphere of the planet no longer has an 'edge line' - the terminator again - that is perpendicular to the equator. Therefore, sunset occurs at different times for places at the same longitude (e.g. same time zone) for any time of year other than the equinoxes (equini?!?). So you (maybe) can envisage that the sunrise and sunset times kind of slip past each other - the difference becoming greatest at a solstice, and zero at an equinox. Hope that clears it up a bit? Al. How do you know all this usless carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 still cant work out what date he died. He might have been a bit of a drama Queen and dragged his demise out for a few days. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Mainly from watching 'Button Moon'. B) But also cos they pay me to. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeryDisco Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Sunrise and Sunset calender this might [groan]shed some light [/groan] on the matter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkieB Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 of course Coptic Christmas/Orthodox Christmas are 6th-7th January; churches that are much closer to Jerusalem than Rome is, so they may have got the Birthday more correct. Equinoctii? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 If he ever existed... Equinoctii? Oh I like that! Equinoctusses ? B) Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jordan Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 It's because of the tilt of the Earths axis of rotation relative to the sun.If the sun is over the equator, the 'terminator' - that is the line between night and day over the planet's surface, not the metal politician with a Uzi 9mm and a dodgy German accent - is perpedicular (90 degrees) to the equator. If the sun dips below the equator (by the nutation of the Earths rotation axis - which is where our seasons come from), the illuminated patch on the sphere of the planet no longer has an 'edge line' - the terminator again - that is perpendicular to the equator. Therefore, sunset occurs at different times for places at the same longitude (e.g. same time zone) for any time of year other than the equinoxes (equini?!?). So you (maybe) can envisage that the sunrise and sunset times kind of slip past each other - the difference becoming greatest at a solstice, and zero at an equinox. Hope that clears it up a bit? Al. Al, You really really need to get a Television or go out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Equinoctusses ? Is that an eight legged sunset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Al, You really really need to get a Television or go out more. Eh? You get to watch TV at work?!? Now that IS a good job! Andy - I'll draw you a picture when you're in Paris, perhaps one of the ladies in the Moulin Rouge can lend you a pen...? Actually, this idea is growing on me - how long can you escape the Misses for...?! B) ...or maybe she'd like to join us? B) B) B) Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 when you're in Paris, perhaps one of the ladies in the Moulin Rouge can lend you a pen...? Actually, this idea is growing on me - how long can you escape the Misses for...?! B) ...or maybe she'd like to join us? B) B) B) Al. Easy tiger this is a family forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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