A Land Rover is not a car!

[muddyplugger]

I recently applied for a permit to 'recycle' some waste (go to the tip, to you and me). I had to apply for a permit as my defender does not have any rear windows. The 'staff' at the tip say my vehicle is classified as a commerical van and I need to apply for a permit.

My local Tip/Recyling Waste Management centre is closed for refurbishment so I have to drive 7 miles to another, no problems!

Here is the e-mail from the Local Government officer (following completing a detailed two page form about my vehicle and its waste!):

Mr Etheridge

I assume you are a Darlington resident applying to use one of Durham County Councils sites while the Darlington site is closed. Unfortunately I am not able to issue you with a waste permit. Darlington made arrangments for residents with vehicles other than cars to use their site at Catterick. If you require further information about the site please contact Darlington County Council.

Thank you.

Susan Holden

Waste Management Unit

VEHICLES OTHER THAN CARS???? What the heck is a Land Rover??? Needless to say I have replied in my sarcastic manner with a link to LandRovers site so they can have a look at what a LandRover is!!!

Is it any wonder that there is so much fly tipping???

[Hybrid_From_Hell]

PLEASE Post up your reply and susequent correspondece.

Nige

[jules]

I took a LSE Range Rover wheel in to a Kwik Fit local store to have a pucture fixed.

I was told sorry we don't do Van Tyres

Before I could reply the chap behind me in the que got that major hump about his RR3 (he spotted the RR center cap) being called a Van.

I wouldn't have told a 6'6 animal of a man that his 65k Range Rover was a van would you.

[Steve King]

Sounds familiar! My brother moved house back in January and I helped him take a load of junk to the local tip.

As my Defender is a hard top the jobsworths initally told me that as it didn't have any seats in the back it was a van and therefore the waste would be classified as commercial. However I have a full length cushion on one of the wheelboxes that makes a handy (illegal!) bench seat. When I showed the jobsworths the bench seat they grudgingly let me in!

[Guest diesel_jim]

I would argue that it doesn't matter what the refuse is carried in, it's the refuse itself that's classed as domestic or commercial.

in swindon, my 110 SW won't fit into the local tip as its too tall. and thats got windows and seats in it.

think fly tipping outside the council offices would be cool! B)

[Les Henson]

Inside would be even better - all the rubbish in one place!

Bluddy crappy Swindon!

Les

[Steve King]

My 110 only just scrapes under the height restrictor at the local tip - I always let the tyres down a bit before going there!

The daft thing is though that the local tip has a pedestrian drop off point as well, so you can always park round the corner and wheel the junk the last few hundred yards to the tip in a barrow! What else can you expect from loony Islington Council!

[Hillbilly Raider]

The guys at my local tip (Chichester) are Landy mad so i never have any problems! trouble is they know i like antiques so i always come home with some thing they have put aside for me.... cause i might like it!

(some times it isnt what i like ,but i havent the heart to say no, specialy when they raise the barrier so i can get the Raider in and unhook the trailer as i am carp at reversing with it on!!)

[Millsy]

The guys at my local tip (Chichester) are Landy mad so i never have any problems! trouble is they know i like antiques so i always come home with some thing they have put aside for me.... cause i might like it!

(some times it isnt what i like ,but i havent the heart to say no, specialy when they raise the barrier so i can get the Raider in and unhook the trailer as i am carp at reversing with it on!!)

Same here in Worthing, been in with the series and sankey loads of times with no problems.

[02GF74]

Same here in Worthing, been in with the series and sankey loads of times with no problems.

that's because SERIES demand and get respect, especially sankey pulling ones

[Jon White]

Yeah i go to my local one in my truck all the time. Never had any problems.

Jon

[Ant]

When I couldn't get my 90 under the height restrictor at the old tip in Swindon, I just drove up the exit and unloaded!! One of the council jobsworth plebs came and gave me a mouthful so I told them they must have mistaken me for someone who gives a carp. Such a bunch of simpleton muppets the lot of them. But if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Throw in the red tape brigade and local worzels and its a clear recipe for disaster.

[Rocket]

What an absolute load of old 80ll0ks. I have had similar experiences and have taken it up with a complete moron at the council who said their policy would not increase fly tipping and that they were carefully monitoring the situation. Well he clearly never goes anywhere a green lane cos thats where all the rubbish is ending up.

I appreciate the fact that they are discriminating between trade waste and household but how ridiculous to base their judgement of the waste on the type of vehicle you bring it in. I used to load up my Ninety with waste frome my house renovation and take it to the tip, it was the most suitable vehicle I own for the purpose. Now they will try and turn me away in the landy and expect me to make 3 journeys in my little Suzuki which then needs valeting afterwards. Its the same bl00dy rubbish after all. If I didn't enjoy green laning and have respect for the countryside I'd be very tempted to fly tip too. However, the council offices sounds like a good place to tip it!!!!

[siggy]

Never had a problem yet at my local one... But bribery may of helped

At the tip, due to machinery moving about on the other side of the public area, health and safety demand the staff wear hardhats

So me being in an industry where the wearing of such things is now mandatory. And of course me having a few unused spares I thought about getting rid of, due to having wrong company logo on them.

So there I am in the queue and I notice pleb looking at them so when I get to off load my junk I look around and finding on say "ere mate do you want these hardhats or should I chuck them?"

hardhats gratefully received and next time I went I got to the front and they all helped me unload and I didn't even have my landy with me it was my dads def110

[Mo Murphy]

I never have any trouble at our local tip either.

Mo

[Diff]

I never have any trouble at our local tip either.

Mo

I have a 110 CSW with child seats in it and of course 5 doors and windows, and it could not possibly be called a van, yet they had a height restiction barrier at the Port Solent tip which the Landy won't fit under. The jobs worths wouldn't open the barrier to allow me in. They told me I would have to come back when the barrier is open (only a few hours on 2 specific days in the week!).

What utter, rediculous nonsense!

Being a 'responsible' type, I drove 7 miles out of may way to take the rubbish to a tip with no height barrier, but I can imagine how easy it would have been for me to fly tip if I was that way inclined.

Regards,

Diff

[gelf]

i took 2 gallons of waste oil to our recycling place only to be told that they thought i was trade.... because i had 2 gallons..........

let me tip 1 of them.....and i had to send kazi down with the other 1 later.

[v8bertha]

Had a similar situation at the Itchen Toll bridge in Southampton a few weeks ago...

Taken the misses out to the cinema in town. On the way over there had been no problem, 50p please sir (the car rate). However on the way back, Mr Jobsworth decided that the Camel 110 was a commercial vehicle and proceeded to ring up £1.20 on the toll booth display. I politely told him that the vehicle was my personal car and that it had seats in the back and windows in the load area, therefore in fact it was a normal estate car, only a little taller . But he wasn't having any of it, all the while the queue of taxis with Mildly miffed up revellers trying to get home was getting longer and longer Anyway, told the jobsworth I wasn't willing to pay the £1.20, but would happily pay the 50p. His reply was that I'd have to go back over the bridge again and that I'd get a letter from the council.

So, on the way back, we stopped and called Jobsworths supervisor out who immediately pointed out that the camel had windows and seats and therefore should be at the normal car rate

I'm still lookin forward to getting a letter from Southampton city council, but alas, I don't think I will

[LR90]

When I go to the tip I use my two seater, aluminium bodied, all wheel drive, turbo charged convertable

Still can't get under that Port Solent barrier though

[Hillbilly Raider]

like i said the guys at our tip are very helpful

maybe your "smiles" arent big enough Trev?!

[LR90]

like i said the guys at our tip are very helpful

maybe your "smiles" arent big enough Trev?!

Yeh but I do drop off more than I collect.

so i always come home with some thing they have put aside for me.... cause i might like it!

(some times it isnt what i like ,but i havent the heart to say no

[Rocket]

I often think about courses of action I should have taken long after I have succumbed to moronic suggestions from Jobsworths. Take the situation with the height barrier where they wouldn't lift it. Next time why don't you just wait there until they do. If its anything like our tip it will be very busy and once the tail back of angry "car" drivers reaches a couple of miles and the tip is now empty of the public I think they might open the barrier even before the police arrive. They are going to look the idiots not you.

The same approach could be taken at the toll booth. If they are insistent that you pay the wrong toll suggest that they fetch someone in authority and just wait, a lot of angry people will soon persuade the moron the error of his ways.

Then there is the 2 gallons of oil. Next time tip the one gallon they have permitted you to tip and then just drive away leaving the second there for them to deal with it, or you could just accidentaly drop it causing it to burst on the floor. What are they going to do make a citizens arrest, send you a summons for fly tipping, Any follow up action is going to make them look the idiots they are.

The problem is that Landrover owners don't fit in the box that the straight jobsworths in town halls would like us to and they can't get their head around anything that is different from their sad little lives with their 2.4 children, semi detached house and ford fiesta that gets washed every sunday morning whether it needs it or not.

Rant mode OFF

[western]

My local 'recycling centre' is great, no height barriers, take my 110 in drop off lots of household stuff, come home pick up loads of old engine oil containers & 3 full of old oil, just drive straight in and dispose of the lot, no one said a word about being commercial which I'm not, even though the 110 is fully marked & kitted as a recovery vehicle.

[LR90]

Have to admit I've never really had a problem other than the low barrier limits when I can access the recycling centre but IIRC its something like 5' 7", like you can't even walk under it, so its not just LRs that are affected.

I did get turned back on the Severn Bridge toll though. Only method of payment was in welsh coinage or something equally silly and they'd never heard of Visa, Amex,...