smo Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Yes....load of tripe! No user of low end consumer DSLR's would want to do that, nikon canon or other brand.....however as with the semi-pro or pro end DSLR's the Nikons are sealed, mine is waterproof and dust proof due to its seals, and for the record i used to shoot with D70's one of Nikons early dslr bodies and i had 2, one for dry and one for wet - when say wet i mean coastal use in salt water - totally unprotected used to photograph storms and regually got covered in salt water - that lasted (and is still going strong) despite not having a single seal on it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Yes....load of tripe! No user of low end consumer DSLR's would want to do that, nikon canon or other brand.....however as with the semi-pro or pro end DSLR's the Nikons are sealed, mine is waterproof and dust proof due to its seals, and for the record i used to shoot with D70's one of Nikons early dslr bodies and i had 2, one for dry and one for wet - when say wet i mean coastal use in salt water - totally unprotected used to photograph storms and regually got covered in salt water - that lasted (and is still going strong) despite not having a single seal on it!!! An interesting comment. So what you are saying is that I shouldn't be going to the viewpoint I want to go to. Perhaps that's the problem with a cheap Canon 20D and the like. So far mine has survived all sorts that have been thrown at it. I do try to keep it dry though. So why wouldn't the Nikon user take a picture the way I did. Why would a photo shop manager agree with me. Why am I reading on a photography forum that Nikons take in dust. I had no dust problems but one of our group with the Nikon was very careful with her's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Maybe she's just cautious - I've never had a problem with mine, everything from the D200 is fully weather/dust sealed, and probably even the lower end ones these days. Why wouldn't the Nikon user take the shot the way you did.....er, no idea, i probably would!!! As for the manager, different strokes for different folks and personally I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of most electrical/photography/computer "specialist" shops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Maybe she's just cautious - I've never had a problem with mine, everything from the D200 is fully weather/dust sealed, and probably even the lower end ones these days.Why wouldn't the Nikon user take the shot the way you did.....er, no idea, i probably would!!! As for the manager, different strokes for different folks and personally I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of most electrical/photography/computer "specialist" shops. Well you see the first time she went into the CKGR the camera got full of sand. She didn't want it to happen again. Thats well said about a very good photographer that you haven't met. You'll be telling me next Nikon make good lenses. They're at the bottom of my list. althought I do actually own one. All plastic inside by the feel of the weight of it mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Nikon lenses have the best optics in the world second to none! Having taken photos professionally myself i'm probably in a fairly good position to comment, however each to their own, you can barely split hairs between canon and nikon these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 The best lens in the world is a Schineder spelling. Then Zeiss Next Leica The pity about the Leica is that it gives good results except on a test chart Tamron. The old glass ones. Mine's made quite a bit of money..... Canon and Nikon on a par. I was very dissapointed the Zeiss let the CONTAX name drop. I had hoped that Sony would get to use it a pity as that AX is the best handling autofocus that I've held. One again it comes to a personal preference to how a camera body fits in your hand. I bought CANON because I could fit my Zeiss lenses to it with a converter ring. I couldn't afford to loose that ammount of money and then pull so much more out to get the lenses I wanted. 300 f2.8 and 500 f4 lenses don't come cheap, even second hand. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I find it amazing that this thread hasn't been locked yet.... 3 pages and it's loosely related to updating websites, but certainly not necessarily LR websites. Yet other threads are deleted right away... the mind boggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 I find it amazing that this thread hasn't been locked yet.... 3 pages and it's loosely related to updating websites, but certainly not necessarily LR websites.Yet other threads are deleted right away... the mind boggles Quiet that man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Turbocharger Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 [Quiet voice] I use a 5MP phone camera for all my website photos, and even then I have to reduce the size to get pics onto here. Granted, I can't get the contrast in low-light action situations or adjust my shutter speed to perfectly capture a housefly in motion, but for point and shoot snaps to go onto the web it's quite sufficient. Maybe I'm just a stills luddite? [/quiet voice] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henk Coetzee Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 IMNSHO, if you want to update your web page, a DSLR is overkill. You would be better off with a good compact with a wide range zoom. Panasonic and Fuji get good reviews. The major advantages of a DSLR are better performance in low light, much less image noise, more flexibility in terms of lenses (if you and your budget want to go there), access to better lenses and (generally) more robust construction than compacts. If you find another excuse for the DSLR (and there are many), you're in a good space to start shopping. They're all good. Things to watch out for are the quality of the kit lenses (typically 18-55mm f3.5-5.6-ish) that come bundled with the cameras. Read the reviews and take them with a large pinch of salt. Remember that often the reviewers are used to using really good, really expensive lenses and compare cheaper lenses to these. I find the reviews on http://www.photozone.de reasonably useful. To give an idea of what's possible and to add some LR content, this is what can be achieved with a cheapo kit lens, although it probably would also have been possible with pretty much anything. One consideration I would take into account is that the 3 smaller manufacturers - Pentax, Sony and Olympus use in-body image stabilisation which will potentially save a lot of money on image stabilised lenses in future, if you are going to get a whole bunch of lenses at some point. If however you do still want a DSLR, I would go for a Nikon... having been a pentax man since I was 12, the pentax digital wasn't cutting it, so I now have the Nikon D50 (sadly no longer available) and it is excellent. Pentax were slow to get into digital SLRs, but are now up there with the rest of them. They also have maintained backward compatibility with old Pentax lenses. As long as you stick to the quality names you can't go too far wrong, certainly into SLR territory the issues of carp lenses on the cheaper options are less of an issue. Well I wouldn't know what digital zoom means. You see even with an SLR I wouldn't even consider a zoom lens.That of course is personal preference. mike Although all the manufacturers have some lenses with issues. I'm with Mike in liking fast primes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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