henk Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I run for the moment +2 inch set (Orange scorpion front and blue Bearmach rear with Decarbon around) I have been offered 2 possibilities: - 4 new Koni heavy track raid for about £400 or - almost complete Evolution kit +2 with turrets, springs, oram shocks etc for about £1000 Your advice please Henk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Not scrapiron whatever! what application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Form an orderly queue please guys............. and keep it clean Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henk Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 what application? Future application: Road / Offroad : 50/50 Present : 90/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Koni or Old Man Emu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Don't know much about Oram shocks, but people have said good things about Koni (and OME for that matter). Setting asside any personal bias, does anyone have experience of Oram? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henk Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Some pictures of these shocks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Real Oram or Scrapiron copies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henk Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 No idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Heavy raid is used a fair bit in the East Henk - seem to be tough bits of kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy boy Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Oram are very good. Made in Italy. Use Ohlins internals. OME are yellow Monroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honitonhobbit Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Been very impressed with these http://www.4wheelonline.com/Products.aspx?...&ProductId= The first set I fitted have now been on the vehicle for three years and it's oneof the more successfull comp safari motors in the south west. Pound for pound it's better value than most proper shocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 OME are yellow Monroes. This has been responded to so many times before. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy boy Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 This has been responded to so many times before. Cheers Steve Yep! Just like every mention of Scorpion. Too easy. Not even fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Oram are very good. Made in Italy. Use Ohlins internals.OME are yellow Monroes. Tim, I've heard several reports that Oram aren't really up to the job when I comes to high speed use. This may not be so much of an issue for potential customers but then why spend the extra over OME (I never had complaints with their quality) or Koni (I've heard some good reports). Unless, of course you want a very long shock in which case Pro Comp do a good range in cheap, long shocks. I've got no first hand experience Orams though so I'm only going on what I've been told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy boy Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Tim, I've heard several reports that Oram aren't really up to the job when I comes to high speed use. This may not be so much of an issue for potential customers but then why spend the extra over OME (I never had complaints with their quality) or Koni (I've heard some good reports). Unless, of course you want a very long shock in which case Pro Comp do a good range in cheap, long shocks. I've got no first hand experience Orams though so I'm only going on what I've been told. Big rod long travel shock for a specific purpose. Not designed for high speed use. No bypasses, no blow-off. Doesn't mean its a bad shock, just means it is being used in the wrong application. Never built as a desert race / high speed shock. Can't really make a straight comparison between a long travel big rod shock and a more normal design. What about pistons, valving, seals? More to it than two bits sliding in and out of each other Tim PS last bit is good natured sarcasm and should be taken as such!! Don't want to get misunderstood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMEXSLAVE Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Original Orams are good for a long travel damper for challenge events but in my opinion not a high speed damper for compsafari ,also im having trouble tracking down rebuild kits for them and new rods as mine have pitted and wiped out the seals. This is annoying as you pay extra for a rebuildable dampers only to find out that you can't get the spares !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveydave Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I have had experiance with the Scrapiron copies and tbh honnest id not use then. Have sent quiet a few back with leaky seals in the past, Scrapiron do rebuild them but thats far from ideal they shouldnt just go with road and green lane type use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Tim, you've run them, I haven't. However this doesn't sound too good - the plating on the shaft of an expensive shock should last. I'd certainly be concerned if my rod that goes in and out turned brown and pitted Original Orams are good for a long travel damper for challenge events but in my opinion not a high speed damper for compsafari ,also im having trouble tracking down rebuild kits for them and new rods as mine have pitted and wiped out the seals. This is annoying as you pay extra for a rebuildable dampers only to find out that you can't get the spares !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I'd certainly be concerned if my rod that goes in and out turned brown and pitted All depends on the application, doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthy boy Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Tim, you've run them, I haven't. However this doesn't sound too good - the plating on the shaft of an expensive shock should last. I'd certainly be concerned if my rod that goes in and out turned brown and pitted Will You should stop using a water based lube! Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 Henk, no fear then............... Going for the full four plank body lift! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMEXSLAVE Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 WillYou should stop using a water based lube! Tim A simple boot over the exposed rod would stop it turning brown and pitted !!! I don't think durex make one long enough or thick enough to survive a good dirty weekend session. A marine based lube would solve your other problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henk Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Problem solved: someone else bought the evolution kit so I probably go for the koni's ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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