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Unfortunately the #1 exhaust port has a cracked/crack in it so looking at new/replacement/refurb heads.

Found a few on Fleabay but they've confused me slightly.....

#1 describes itself as; Td5 Cylinder head , pressure tested, light skim, all valves reseated. ready to go THREE MONTH'S WARRANTEE, check (cast no HRC2880)

#2 says; refurbished Land Rover Discovery TD5 Cylinder Head Assembly Complete with injectors cams, ect full working order will fit 2002 models onwards Part No PGG101050.

#3 says; Brand new LAND ROVER TD5 CYLINDER HEAD FITTED WITH VALVES AND SPRINGS READY TO FIT

Does this mean that all TD5 Cylinder heads aren't the same?? Therefore how will I know which one I need??

and secondly there's abotu £200 difference between #1 and #2 yet #2 has injecorts, cams fitted...is that worth the £200..

Also is there anywhere else anyone suggests for me to look for a new/replacement/refurb head?

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Yes, the heads are different. if your engine number starts 10P then it's an early one, with both fuel rail pipes internal to the head (and these ones are more prone to cracking)

15P and 16P are later models, with one pipe in the head and one external pipe.

probably numerous other differences also (Porny will be the man to answer that), such as the fuel cooler.

whether later heads are interchangable with early ones... don't know i'm afraid.

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#2 says; refurbished Land Rover Discovery TD5 Cylinder Head Assembly Complete with injectors cams, ect full working order will fit 2002 models onwards Part No PGG101050.

Think there might be a typo... PGG101050 is a fan!

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Jim will it last long if welded or is it a cheap option now which will need repairing at some point??

As the engine is already in bits wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to bit the bullet and have it done now as opposed to weld it now, it fail (and sods law it will when it's least convenient) and then have the engine stripped again??

Also we're coming up to the winter and temperatures of minus 20 are quite a common event so with metal contracting might that be more likely to cause it to crack again??

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Cheap option it is - cost us the equivalent of £100 for the engineers to remove the valve seat (no 1 of course), send it away to be welded and put the seat back in afterwards. A new head seems to be in the region of R32k here, which is about £2000, it seems only the stealers™ stock them and their prices are silly. So our only alternative was a second hand head which could be cracked anyway, or about to.

Oh and the owner has done almost 10k kms in a few weeks since the job and is happy.

If you are worried about -20°, that is what antifreeze is for. We suffer more in the other direction in the summer, most Tdi and TD5 heads are cracked by overheating after hoses blow or the head gasket goes.

I must say I was a bit sceptical about the welding, but we offered the choice to the owner (with no warranty on the head) and he took it. At that price, so would I :)

The engineers told us they regularly weld BMW heads especially, plus all sort of other cars and motorbikes.

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Cheap option it is - cost us the equivalent of £100 for the engineers to remove the valve seat (no 1 of course), send it away to be welded and put the seat back in afterwards. A new head seems to be in the region of R32k here, which is about £2000, it seems only the stealers™ stock them and their prices are silly. So our only alternative was a second hand head which could be cracked anyway, or about to.

Oh and the owner has done almost 10k kms in a few weeks since the job and is happy.

If you are worried about -20°, that is what antifreeze is for. We suffer more in the other direction in the summer, most Tdi and TD5 heads are cracked by overheating after hoses blow or the head gasket goes.

I must say I was a bit sceptical about the welding, but we offered the choice to the owner (with no warranty on the head) and he took it. At that price, so would I :)

The engineers told us they regularly weld BMW heads especially, plus all sort of other cars and motorbikes.

Sensible option, majority of weld repairs I've seen last well.

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I'm trying to work out which generation of head I've got......it's not possible to read the engine number, we've tried to clean it off and can't tell.....so looking at the head there are two sets of numbers;

On the Inlet side there's a cast number; HRC2880

On the rear/back face of the head there's a number stamped; 44-00-19616 (the 00 might be GG)

so from these numbers can anyone tell which generation it is please??

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I'm trying to work out which generation of head I've got......it's not possible to read the engine number, we've tried to clean it off and can't tell.....so looking at the head there are two sets of numbers;

On the Inlet side there's a cast number; HRC2880

On the rear/back face of the head there's a number stamped; 44-00-19616 (the 00 might be GG)

so from these numbers can anyone tell which generation it is please??

HRC 2880 is an early type head with two internal fuel galleries.

FridaT

www.turner-engineering.co.uk

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Unfortunately the #1 exhaust port has a cracked/crack in it so looking at new/replacement/refurb heads.

Found a few on Fleabay but they've confused me slightly.....

#1 describes itself as; Td5 Cylinder head , pressure tested, light skim, all valves reseated. ready to go THREE MONTH'S WARRANTEE, check (cast no HRC2880)

#2 says; refurbished Land Rover Discovery TD5 Cylinder Head Assembly Complete with injectors cams, ect full working order will fit 2002 models onwards Part No PGG101050.

#3 says; Brand new LAND ROVER TD5 CYLINDER HEAD FITTED WITH VALVES AND SPRINGS READY TO FIT

Does this mean that all TD5 Cylinder heads aren't the same?? Therefore how will I know which one I need??

and secondly there's abotu £200 difference between #1 and #2 yet #2 has injecorts, cams fitted...is that worth the £200..

Hi

Dont know if Turner Engineering do TD5 Heads, but if they do, go to them not the cheapest in the world but they are real engineers and know what they are doing.

All you will get from them is top quality.

Regards

Keith (nothing to do with them just a very satisfied customer from the past)

Also is there anywhere else anyone suggests for me to look for a new/replacement/refurb head?

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Hi Guys....thanks for all of your help on my tale of woe.........

all sorted now on this issue...............liked Turner Engineering very much.....really seem to know their stuff, helpfull even when I asked really dense questions BUT at the end of the day Mrs M drew the line on cost......I know you can't really compare new (which Turner do) with reconditioned but we do have a wedding to pay for and are in the 1st year of a new business so have bought a reconditioned with 12 months warranty from the equally nice Ians at The Head Centre..

Head should be delivered Friday morning and I'm coming back to the UK early September to get the Defender back!!

Beeing that the only way I suspected something was up was thick smoke and then found oil in the header tank....will I notice a difference??

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