roybatty666 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Apart from pipe layout and the bolts on the top of the box is there any real differenct in the boxes? The reason I ask is mine has run out of adjustment and I still have more than the normal "Land Rover Tolerance" play in the steering, so I need to get a reconned one, and mine is a 6 bolt jobbie. If there is a benefit to a 3 or 4 bolt over the 6 bolt that is worth altering the pipes for then now would obviously the time to switch. I am not after work for the sake of it as I have enough scabby bits that need my attention without making new problems Thanks as ever chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 check the column jints are in good order as they maybe at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 check the column jints are in good order as they maybe at fault. I had a look at those and they are solid, you can see the input shaft of the box turning 1/8th or so of a turn before the arm moves, the box's adjuster has been wound in all the way to take the slack out by the previous owner, leaving me with the fun of replacing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Four bolt is supposedly the strongest of the LR offerings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I had a look at those and they are solid, you can see the input shaft of the box turning 1/8th or so of a turn before the arm moves, the box's adjuster has been wound in all the way to take the slack out by the previous owner, leaving me with the fun of replacing it Can't you fit a longer adjustment bolt? They didn't invent threaded bar for nothing you know!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I had a look at those and they are solid, you can see the input shaft of the box turning 1/8th or so of a turn before the arm moves, the box's adjuster has been wound in all the way to take the slack out by the previous owner, leaving me with the fun of replacing it sounds like he wound it in as a quick fix & hasn't done you any favours, 6 bolt boxes are OK, had one on my 110 for years without any problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I believe Adwest (surely the best steering box reconditioners) only do the 4 bolt now,but not 100% sure. The most interesting thing at the Eastnor show was the Adwest stand with the cut-away steering boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 12, 2008 Author Share Posted August 12, 2008 Can't you fit a longer adjustment bolt? They didn't invent threaded bar for nothing you know!! I tried winding it in so the locking nut was only holding a couple of threads (still didn't get all teh slack out) and it came undone losing all preload on the top seal and peeing fluid out everywhere, not to mention the randome degrees of slack I was gettin in the steering You should be able to drain them and pour in slightly bigger ball bearings Paddock do a 6 bolt recon for £200 odd with a £100 refund on return of the old box which seems a good deal. I have used Paddock a air bit over the years and have had excellent service and part quality has never been an issue (touch wood) so was thinking of getting it from them, unless there is some where better / cheaper? I think I will just get another 6 bolt as I can't be bothered changing pipes if I can avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reiny Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 You don't need to change any pipes if you're replacing a 6 bolt with a 4 bolt. 3-bolt PAS boxes have different fittings but 6 and 4 bolt boxes use identical ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 You don't need to change any pipes if you're replacing a 6 bolt with a 4 bolt. 3-bolt PAS boxes have different fittings but 6 and 4 bolt boxes use identical ones. ah well I have a 6 bolt coming now thanks anyway My box is now randomly going tight than normal tight then normal, so definitely time to replace it. Also while I am at it does anyone know it the steering drag link / rod ends from a Range Rover p38 fit as I bought some for my rangie but didn't need them so was thinking of popping them onto the Defender while I was doing the steering box? Cheers chaps Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 EPC tells me no the RR2 track rod ends only fit that model. for a 90/110/Defender you need 2 x rtc5869 right hand thread & 1 x rtc5870 left hand thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 EPC tells me no the RR2 track rod ends only fit that model.for a 90/110/Defender you need 2 x rtc5869 right hand thread & 1 x rtc5870 left hand thread. Cheers for that, not a biggy as mine are ok, just have these new ones knocking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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