S2A109RAG Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Has any one a suggestion on an upgrade to the old sealed beams in a series Land Rover? Im thinking a relay would be part of the salution??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill B Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I followed this guys diagrams and advice and was very happy with the result I bought Wipac headlights fro Paddock http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80INCH Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 You really dont need a relay unless your fitting high wattage light bulbs. I swapped the sealed beams in the mini over to h4 halogen conversion with normal 55w bulbs and the existing wiring copes very well, light switch dosn't get hot no problems for 6 years. It is a popular conversion on minis and no relays are needed. I did try 100w bulbs for a couple of months; but the switch got quite hot and melted internally; in this instance you would need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 Has any one a suggestion on an upgrade to the old sealed beams in a series Land Rover?Im thinking a relay would be part of the salution??? Definitely a fan of relays! Saves your switches as they dont have to carry so much current. Cables are shorter improving situation, can be individually fused. Wiring to steering switch can be so much smaller/neater. A relay can take 1000s of operations, cost a few pound. I am sure your steering switch would cost about 10 times that! Would recommend this route. With a bit of time and effort you will be rewarded with great lights. Doesnt have to cost alot. All modern vehicles use relays so you could possibly get them for pence from a scrappy. Maybe some thick cables robbed from a car could also be utilised. I run the crystal headlights from wipac. Another improvement. Few tips; Get yourself a quality crimper, forget cheapy versions. Also a nice multimeter would be a bonus. There are two versions of relays. Pin layout is different. A relay base makes it all neat and tidy. Check out Vehicle Wiring products website. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill B Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 You really dont need a relay unless your fitting high wattage light bulbs.I swapped the sealed beams in the mini over to h4 halogen conversion with normal 55w bulbs and the existing wiring copes very well, light switch dosn't get hot no problems for 6 years. It is a popular conversion on minis and no relays are needed. I did try 100w bulbs for a couple of months; but the switch got quite hot and melted internally; in this instance you would need one. My wiring started to melt without relays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Discovan300tdi Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 being a cheapskate I picked up a pair of mk2 VW golf halogen from a scrap yard for a fiver for the wifes series 3 fitted a treat and you can now actually see things ih the dark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Halogen upgrades are ~£25 and a standard Lucas part, or there's the crystal ones for about £5 more. Relays are never a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirby mackintosh Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 I first installed some Hella H4 halogen inserts in place of the standard glowworm cannisters to my Series 2A and it made quite a difference. Once I read and understood the effect on voltage drop on bulb output (.5 of a volt drop = a MAJOR drop in output, as bulbs reach their stated output not at 12 V but at about 13.8 to 14 Volts when your alternator is running) Trust me if you measure the voltage at the lights you'll see that the relay installation is well worth it. I then did the relay conversion last year and the difference is remarkable. The lights are MUCH brighter and more effective. It really helped. Light is bright and strong, now if only the adjusters weren't shot I could aim them somewhere useful! Go for it, if you need lights you won't regret it. Kirby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Jones Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 Did the Halogen conversion myself on the L/W, would have been rude not to Improved the lights no end, will be rewiring her again when I yake her off the road for the full conversion treatment so i'll try your suggestions using relays, can't hurt and the opportunity to individually fuse sounds a safer option if problems occur later, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patch1 Posted September 28, 2008 Share Posted September 28, 2008 I replaced the broken odd pair of lamps in my N reg D90 with standard britpart replacments and fitted them blue tip phillips bulbs. Cheep and happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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