McS Junior Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I'm in the market for a new winch bumper. I dont mind if its square or tubular, but I dont want an A bar. Its to accomodate a low profile winch (EP9 or Warn XP type) and needs to maintain as good an approach angle as possible. So, what have you got? Pictures and advice much appreciated.... Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101sean Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 I've got a First Four winch bumper, but is an aircon one so not what you're looking for. Very well engineered though and they make a good range of designs. Only problem I had was their tolerances are a lot better than Land Rover's and was tight fit until I opened a couple of holes up http://www.firstfour.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 Another vote for the First Four winch bumper. Came in handy at at slindon at the weekend when I discovered why no one was going through this (still I almost got through it and got further than most ) deceptively gloopy under the water (thats my excuse and I'm sticking to it) and as ever THIUWP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milemarker Type S Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Another vote for First Four Offroad- this one... I have the version with the a bar built in- very well made and tough as old boots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reads90 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 mmm ARB for me need somthing big and strong for those roos and abo's to bounch off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 a mega vote for first four off road i have the one for a husky great peice kit perfectly made very good price an very help full there dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I too have a First Four bumper, the standard Defender one. I bought it with an EP9 winch as a package which included everything needed for fitting and wiring. I found First Four a pleasure to deal with and the bumper seems well made and finished. Happy to recommend them. Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I too have a First Four bumper, the standard Defender one. I bought it with an EP9 winch as a package which included everything needed for fitting and wiring. I found First Four a pleasure to deal with and the bumper seems well made and finished.Happy to recommend them. Phil. I got the LP8500 and bumper package and have been very impressed. First Four were fantastic, I got the stainless steel recovery points and some shackles and one of the shackles was poorly cast on the pin so didn't fit the ecovery point, First four sent out 2 new shackles straight away and I got to keep the slightly oversize ones for ropes etc. As for ARB I had one on my Disco and it was pretty rocking but a bit of overkill really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I have a First Four one too. Personally I'm not that keen on tubular design and prefer standard bumper look, but it was only one I found that had good aproach angle properties. As for winch, I'd recommend a TDS 9.5 from David Bowyer over lowline Warn or EP9.5. Here are some pics.. with TDS.. with previous ep9.. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 hi few pics of mine as requested dave must learn how to make images smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McS Junior Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Thanks for all the replies so far - seems like First Four have a good reputation. Does anyone have a square type one? Maybe Devon or Southdown? Just want to compare before I decide... Steve - it was your truck I had in my head, just couldnt remember who it belonged to! Would you say there was room/access to mount a pair of spotlights either side of the winch on that bumper? Cheers, Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Thanks for all the replies so far - seems like First Four have a good reputation.Does anyone have a square type one? Maybe Devon or Southdown? Just want to compare before I decide... Steve - it was your truck I had in my head, just couldnt remember who it belonged to! Would you say there was room/access to mount a pair of spotlights either side of the winch on that bumper? Cheers, Ross lol that threw me, I wondered how you knew I was called Steve for a minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 There is enough room between the rear face of the tube and the winch motor and winch gear set to make up some L shaped brackets to mount some spots either side of the winch.. Southdown make some good bumpers, the ones I know are tapered rather than square. Mantec make a good standard looking square bumper, but it's also at standard height so approach angle is same as standard bumper. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 D44 bumper - Very strong and good approach angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McS Junior Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 D44 bumper - Very strong and good approach angle. Thats a real nice looking truck mate. Thats more what I'm after bumper-wise - when I said straight, thats the sort of thing I meant. Will it take a low profile winch or is it tailored to the 8274? Do the Southdown ones look like that too? Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Mine is a D44 made but the Same as the Southdown variant inline with Chassis rather than above the rails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McS Junior Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Mine is a D44 made but the Same as the Southdown variantinline with Chassis rather than above the rails Yep, I like that - but as I've told you before tony, I like your whole truck, nice and simple looking - just wish I could afford it! Did you ask Devon to make you up the bumper? What sort of money was in that? Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Southdown sell them I just stopped at D44 on the way home and Simon made it for the next week Cost £250 when I had it made. I had a new side grafted on by Dave at Southdown after a tree incident. there are better bumpers re approach angle available now days. Thanks for the Compliment. I'm liking it a bit more after Last Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McS Junior Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 there are better bumpers re approach angle available now days. What would you recommend Tony? Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 The one I have If not the First four one for Value for money The D44 one is Spendy in the extreme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I have the same type as Jacks906, but without the A-Bar. It's a good strong bumper with recovery points, but sticks out further than the standard bumper and reduces the approach angle a bit. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven Hart Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Guardian Although I did need to do a little work to fit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacks906 Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 as les mentioned it sticks out quiet abit but i reckon you could mod it to loose about 2 - 3 inches as it sticks out about 11" from the front pannel dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Thats a real nice looking truck mate. Thats more what I'm after bumper-wise - when I said straight, thats the sort of thing I meant. Will it take a low profile winch or is it tailored to the 8274? Do the Southdown ones look like that too? Ross I believe Devon do a very similar bumper for the low-line winch’s. I know the D44 kit is a tad on the expensive side but its very well made, you pay’s your money……………………… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulublue Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I have a Devon 4x4 bumper, which links in to the steering guard, it looks the same as White 90's but mine sits higher or it seems that way. I love it for approch anglesit gives its fantastic, the other one I would look at is the Gywn Lewis bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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