McS Junior Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 PUMA 110 Chassis Cabs No connection with the company other than having used them before on a number of occassions. Just thought it was an interesting link, could be money to be saved on list prices if someone has the expertise to put a Hardtop etc on. Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 It's crazy isn't it.... brand new and already surplus to requirements.... And i bet they're selling them at a loss (to us, the taxpayer...) makes you want to get the penpusher who ordered them and slap him. unless of course, it was ME buying one.... then i'd be happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pux Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 You can stick the landy i will take this thank you.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 With or without replacement engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty_wingnut Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 i guess they just got the last service bulletin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 And i bet they're selling them at a loss (to us, the taxpayer...) makes you want to get the penpusher who ordered them and slap him. I wouldn't be so sure, the amount they buy must give them good discount, maybe they will make a profit. That's how the car hire companies work and why you usually have a nearly new car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 That's how Diggerland works too, and why you get to 'race' 3CX's with single figure hours on the clock. I say 'race' as it's not exactly quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hiatt Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 That's how Diggerland works too So that's what you've be doing with your time! Manby was well worth the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilIT Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Me thinks this is a screenscrape from here:- surpluscars now see how big a waste of money it is - RRVogues, 300tdis, TD5, Puma, D3, RRSport - theyve got the lot - and have a laugh at the qtys they have of each of the white defenders - which I guess may be NATO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Se7enUp Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 This one looks interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Whats with the export only stipulation on what is essentially a normal RHD landrover?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbeaumont Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Whats with the export only stipulation on what is essentially a normal RHD landrover?? Maybe don't want to gamble on whether it is or isn't road legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJIbex Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 You can walk into any main dealer and order the exact same vehicle. There is a small saving in price over bodied varieties; the idea being that for commercial users who want cherry pickers, tippers, etc. you do not pay for what you don't want and the fitting of these bits does not require removal of bodywork. I would imagine that the reason for export only will be due to the original supply agreement that Land Rover has with the MOD & VAT implications. Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 The export-only thing is the same for the G4 stuff, I'm wondering if it's type approval or emissions or somesuch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Gotta be type approval... i can't imagine that a Td5 or a puma is any less emmisions friendly for RoW spec thesedays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark90 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 So that's what you've be doing with your time! Manby was well worth the trip. I was up for it, I had some thing to pick up in Grimsby anyway, but my driver couldn't be convinced We'll be there next month, whichever site it's at, gotta get these diamonds used up! Best shut up now before the OT police arrive PS 3 seconds, it's close at the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallycinq Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 You can walk into any main dealer and order the exact same vehicle. There is a small saving in price over bodied varieties; the idea being that for commercial users who want cherry pickers, tippers, etc. you do not pay for what you don't want and the fitting of these bits does not require removal of bodywork.I would imagine that the reason for export only will be due to the original supply agreement that Land Rover has with the MOD & VAT implications. Mark. Is the Isle of Man in the EU? Cheers David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Baldwin Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 They need to be cheap. A main dealer contact of mine was telling me his LR two dealerships sold a total of one car between them the other week and took a £1000 loss on it to shift it. Had a MUD customer in the other day with new 08 model 90 who had managed to haggle a £4k saving on list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Gotta be type approval... i can't imagine that a Td5 or a puma is any less emmisions friendly for RoW spec thesedays. Afraid so - even the Puma is different. The UK models are EU4 spec designed to run on EU grade diesel; the ones that come here are MMR EU2 spec which have a different level of tune designed to run on poor quality fuel and don't have all the emissions stuff fitted. I don't honestly know what the physical differences are (i.e. I couldn't look under a bonnet and tell you which was which) but I do know you can't take one back into Europe as-is because you won't get an EU certificate of conformity on a non EU vehicle. Having said that they still look pretty clean in terms of no black smoke etc. What they will look like in a few years remains to be seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I saw these on the witham site yesterday when I was looking there. They are priced up at 11,950 +VAT wvs Decent price for 110 tray back winch challenge project Will?? Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 The export only thing as exactly as someone has said - type approval. These can be run in the UK, but are subject to an SVA. However as they are new vehicles you have to get through the enhanced SVA (not the much less stringent one people who build hybrids etc take). They can get through this, but there is a surprising amount of work required to get them through. They get as anal as having to fill all the unused holes in the rear crossmembers with rubber gromets due to the sharp edges. Simply putting bolts in the holes wont do as the bolt heads themselves have sharp edges...........thats just the tip of the iceberg!!!! Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Why, the chassis, body etc are all type approved for UK, nothing changes there its only the emissions control gear thats changed so it shouldn't be that hard....should it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon White Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Well you'd think that wouldnt you........ Trouble is these are plainly not uk spec so therefore have to be SVA'd as the type approval only covers the uk spec machines. I'm told landrover get away with it basically becasue the defender has been in production for so long it predates some of the legislation. Bear in mind that a UK spec defender will not pass the enchanced SVA unmodified. It gets into silly silly things like the switches on the dashboard being too sharp etc etc Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffUK Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Jon, Don't know where you get your info from but I actually bought a 110 through Whitham and the SVA was a "administrative burden" and nothing else. I did not need to modify or change anything, ah and the car has my favourite 300tdi engine in it!!! If anyone has the chance go and have a look at Whitham SV. 60 brand new cars in storage, 2500 Sankeys on their yard, tanks, trucks the whole lot. Very impressive!!! In case anyone has no interest in doing SVA themself (I had someone else doing the paperwork for me) than you can buy the vehicles through dealers as well and they do SVA for you. Because it is a loop hole in the system no-one really advertises this service but check out Keith Gott or Nene Overland and they are more than happy to sell you one incl. SVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Lindsay (spelling?) Porter in LRM mag has just bought an export LHD 300TDI CSW and had it SVA'd with no problem. He even converted it back to RHD. Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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