pist0nbr0ke Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 Morning all!! Got a problem with a 200tdi being a bit smokey for the MOT... well off the scale really!!!! Any suggestion of what to "hit" to get the smoke down? Many thanks Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 hi this is not a fix but will get it thro the MOT turn the linkage so that there is slack when i did it last year to get my TD thro thwe mot i could only get 35mph out of it but it pass first rev i've had to use this method to get my farthers shogun to pass for the last 4 years but if vosa do roadside check it would fail when turned back up. so not a fix but gets you the MOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 this is not a fix but will get it thro the MOT Like you say though - it'll get you through the ticket but won't really solve anything. Have a look here: Tdi fuel pump adjustment Hope this helps. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pist0nbr0ke Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 cheers guys, I should also say it doesn't start from cold (left overnight) very well. I am thinking timing? anyone agree? Cheers Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrfarmer Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 cheers guys,I should also say it doesn't start from cold (left overnight) very well. I am thinking timing? anyone agree? Cheers Neil i have thort that it could well be the timming as both my 200tdi's start first turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thon Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Firstly, presuming of course it is black smoke, i'd check the air filter for cleanliness as too little air = overfueling/smoke I'd then renew the fuel filter and add some injector cleaner. Lastly, get it good and warm and take it for a good, hard run. 30 miles or so should do it. That way, you've done all the cheap, easy things. If it's struggling to start, it may be worth checking the heater plugs, not that the 200 really needs them in normal conditions. If this doesn't cure it, I would be looking at injectors and injector pump. If it's blue smoke however, you should be looking in other oil-burning rather than overfueling problems. I have just used exactly this procedure with a smoky 200TDI 110 CSW that I purchased, which had been sat for a year and had not been serviced for a while. It went from smoky old stinker to a good pass. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pist0nbr0ke Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 Thorn, Sounds like a plan! Will give it a go, and see what happens. Thanks again guys Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gruntus Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Im surpised no one has said Redex yet........... Cheers Grant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pist0nbr0ke Posted September 23, 2008 Author Share Posted September 23, 2008 Grant, A healthy dose of Redex is on it's way! Does anyone know where i can get a workshop manual for the 200Tdi. I had a look in the tech archeive but the link to that german website was not working? Cheers Neil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexeltw Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 I usually stick half a bottle of Millers Diesel Sport additive in the tank before I take my 300 off for its yearly; cuts the smoke down quite a bit (and makes it fly!) and if I'm having real problems I have been know to remove the air filter when i get to the test centre. I wouldn't advise that tho, especially on a dusty day! My friendly MOT tester says that if you are really stuck you can pop the fuel filter off and fill that directly with additive which will run the engine while the emissions are done, especially if they can use the newer quick emissions test cycle. Never tried it mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimAttrill Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 The only 200Tdi manuals I have seen are on paper. The RAVE came along with the 300Tdi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Bio diesel my 300tdi at last mot they had a new analyser, and were curseing that it had broke already as the reading was so low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manicmarshal Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Does anyone know where i can get a workshop manual for the 200Tdi. I had a look in the tech archeive but the link to that german website was not working? Just bought to CD's from the heritage centre £10 each special offer and it covers everything you will ever need from electricals to engines. http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/sho...r-tp/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBMUD Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Get the engine properly warmed up before presenting for an MOT. When the temperature gauge gets to warm then engine is mostly still cold. Go out and drive a minimum of 10 miles on open roads before going back for the test. This gets the oil hot as well as the injection pump etc. As suggested above, you can adjust the throttle cable to give very minor throttle opening at full peddle travel. I would be very surprised to see a 200Tdi that is not knackered fail an MOT when presented properly warmed up. HTH Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Horsevad Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Morning all!!Got a problem with a 200tdi being a bit smokey for the MOT... well off the scale really!!!! Any suggestion of what to "hit" to get the smoke down? Many thanks Neil Adding some kerosene to your diesel will make even the most smoking old diesel pass emision test. Normally 1 part kerosene to 10 parts diesel will do. Most of the "diesel additives" are based on kerosene or similar chemicals. Kerosene has no lubricating properties, so add a litre of engine oil (new) to the tank after the test. Such "cowboy-tricks" can sometimes be necessary, but a more correct approach would be to test the injectors for correct spray pattern, check engine timing and calibrate the high-pressure pump correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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