marsie Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 While i am rebuilding my 90 i am going to give it a respray. So what would be the best paint for spraying at home/work.Want something hard wearing,quick drying and easy to apply.Dont have full extraction equipment but workshop is well ventilated Ta Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Have a read of this about coach painting. It may seem low tech compared to spraying but the gallery shots show that the results can be first class. http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hybridv8 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Have a read of this about coach painting. It may seem low tech compared to spraying but the gallery shots show that the results can be first class.http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk/index.html hi,i tryed tekaloid paint a couple of years ago on a series 3,great finish,i used a small roller(NOT the foam type)this leaves bubbles,also i put can into warm/hot water,to make it run a bit smoother,hope this helps.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 mmm i had a go at brush painting a car a few years ago but didnt have the patience to get a decent finish so i am going to go with spray painting,question is do i use cellulose,acrylic or 2 pack? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 mmm i had a go at brush painting a car a few years ago but didnt have the patience to get a decent finish so i am going to go with spray painting,question is do i use cellulose,acrylic or 2 pack?Paul Have you got a source for the paint ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 mmm i had a go at brush painting a car a few years ago but didnt have the patience to get a decent finish so i am going to go with spray painting,question is do i use cellulose,acrylic or 2 pack?Paul Tempted to say that if you haven't got the patience to brush then you won't be better off spraying. My 2p worth: Cellulose is ok but plenty of things can go wrong, blooming etc. Not very durable. 2 pack gives off cyanide so not suitable for home use. I have had the best results using acrylic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Have you got a source for the paint ? last time i bought the blue for my doors i went to a place in rotherham.I got a 5 litre tin of Lechler cellulose which went on fine,got a good finish but a couple of weeks later i did an event and where the mud splattered the bodywork it ate into the paint spoiling the whole panel?? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Have you got a source for the paint ? http://www.paintman.co.uk/index.html This guy is at all the shows. Think he visits here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Tempted to say that if you haven't got the patience to brush then you won't be better off spraying. My 2p worth: Cellulose is ok but plenty of things can go wrong, blooming etc. Not very durable. 2 pack gives off cyanide so not suitable for home use. I have had the best results using acrylic. Had experience spraying in the past but on commercial vehicles that arent gettin dragged through trees every time out but have only had mediocre results with brush painting.Never used acrylic except using rattle cans but that would cost me a fortune,how easy is acrylic to put on with a spraygun and how quick does it dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 http://www.paintman.co.uk/index.htmlThis guy is at all the shows. Think he visits here too. May give him a call,at least he will know what i am looking for unlike the guys at the local paint shop who always want to sell me some light reactive chromaflair chameleon sooper dooper paint at £1000 a litre Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integerspin Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I would use 2pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I've always used Celly - you can get anti-bloom thinners for it. You still need good ventilation and breathing gear though. When I sprayed my rear tub/sides/roof, I made a big temporary tent in my back garded out of those blue plastic tarpaulin sheets you buy from the likes of B&Q. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The reason I asked if he had a source for the paint was that I've always bought paint from the local trade supplier. For years they've supplied paint in just about any form, mixed in the shop to match whatever colour/finish you want. They'd even put it in an aerosol for you with a decent nozzle. Last time I went in there I was told they'd had to stop selling it because new legislation has made it illegal to spray vehicles with cellulose or 2 pack that isn't water based. This was further confirmed when I contacted other suppliers in the area. They could supply water based 2 pack but you can't really use that without an oven. The only way around it at the time was to order the paint for industrial rather than automotive use but the rumour was that trading standards and the environment agency were cracking down on that avenue. If the situation hasn't changed since then then it may be better to find a source for the paint first as you might be limited by what is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Isocyanate 2k car paint DOES NOT CONTAIN OR GIVE OFF CYANIDE. This is a popular and often quoted myth that has been doing the rounds since 2K came into use in the mid-70's. See page 8 of http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/web33.pdf Due to changes in EU legislation to do with Volatile Organic Compounds it was illegal to sell non-compliant auto refinishing paint in Europe from 1.1.2008 so the manufacturers no longer import it into Europe. Solid colours can be bought as 2k, you add the hardener to the paint, thin as required & spray. Usually 2 coats with a flash off period between. Metallics/pearls are applied as a colour coat (now waterbase) followed after proper coverage is achieved & the water has been flashed off by the use of hot air blown over the panel by the application of usually 2 coats of clear lacquer. The lacquer is 2k. Some one-pack lacquers are still available but these lack the durability of 2k. Whatever you are spraying you are strongly advised to wear appropriate respiratory protection. There are numerous paint suppliers on ebay & some do still appear to be supplying cellulose/acrylic solvent based materials. Whatever paint you buy it is important to get the Technical Data Sheets as these give you the info as to correct mixing, thinning, gun air pressure, gun fluid tip size and health & safety info. BTW I am not the Paint Man referred to in an earlier link. I do SMART repairs as a business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royAB Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 ' they'd had to stop selling it because new legislation has made it illegal to spray vehicles with cellulose or 2 pack that isn't water based. This was further confirmed when I contacted other suppliers in the area' Overheard a similar conversation in my local Auto paint shop the other day.. but when I enquired (as I was in there getting cellulose matched for my LR) the manager told me the legislation only applies to 'commercial' painters and he'd be fine supplying to me as 'DIY'. Might be worth re-checking your supplier on this basis.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan kemp Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I use hammerite smooth. It can be mixed with other hammerite colours to get something other than the bland colours on offer. I use cellulose thinners for thinning, actually its gun cleaner I use. You dont get a nice showroom finish but it is good enough for a challenge truck and it is easy to patch up. It dries in 15 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4444244 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Hi I used synthetic enamel, its easy to get a good finish, cheap, and most importantly it dries tougher than a tough thing! enamel Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyEvans Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 the best paint that ive found to spray is a make called mipa. it sprays on really smooth, dries nice and quick and smells nice lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Isocyanate 2k car paint DOES NOT CONTAIN OR GIVE OFF CYANIDE. This is a popular and often quoted myth that has been doing the rounds since 2K came into use in the mid-70's. BTW I am not the Paint Man referred to in an earlier link. I do SMART repairs as a business. Apologies paintman, both for spreading the cyanide myth and for confusing you with someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Wightman Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QD90 thins with white spirit and sprays easily, drys quickly and is very affordable. What else could one need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missingsid Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 QD90 thins with white spirit and sprays easily, drys quickly and is very affordable. What else could one need? And comes in "Landrover Green" Marc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintman Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Apologies paintman, both for spreading the cyanide myth and for confusing you with someone else. No problem! I confuse myself often enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 In the end i went for 2 pack and a mask.Got a quite good finish on the few panels i have done upto now and it dries really hard so should wear well Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landmannnn Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Give us a bit more detail! What brand of paint? where did you get it? how much did you need? how much did it cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsie Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 got it from rotherham vehicle refinishers.Got 2L paint,1L hardener and 5L tin of standard thinners and a twin filter charcoal respirator mask and altogether it cost £65,paint itself was £19 per litre.Upto now done bonnet,both doors,rear bulkhead,cab rear panel and screen surround and have used about 2/3rds of paint.Cant remember brand Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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