white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=738603 Quote
TJ101 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 The picture of the bust one on Pirate, looks just like mine Also may have to have a word with David as Ashcrofts , must get round to stripping the front end, to see whats broke Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 Mine to Tim and I have to strip the front axle on the 90 I replaced the radius arm bushes this morning, Bloomin cold out there on the drive Quote
Mark90 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Must have been a fair few of those 'display' sets sold, I've seen a few that have gone the same way. I guess that's why they reduced the number of holes in the later sets. But why not be up front and straight about it? Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 Mark I have fitted 4 sets and all were Identical to mine. Agreed if it is a post production issue then warranty replacements should be made available? Quote
GBMUD Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 I guess that's why they reduced the number of holes in the later sets. But why not be up front and straight about it? I think this is why... if it is a post production issue then warranty replacements should be made available. It strikes me that a product recall would be in order. It strikes me (layman of course) that these are a real potential danger, not only on road but off it too. I wonder what QT's product liability insurers would have to say? Chris Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 I have Emailed QT and await their response. I'll post up what happens. Quote
ciderman Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 I have the later ones on my 90 , No cracking problems but I have on more than one occasion bent them quite badly without to much effort , So after straightening them a few times I have welded a strengthening web into them , but this has put the weight back up and realy defeats the object of having lightweight arms , Im going back to Std arms , Much stronger . Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 Jase I see your point but unfortunatley I gave away my old ones Quote
roybatty666 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Coming from performance cars where weight shedding was pretty pointless for most people on a 2+ ton Landy it seems even more ridiculous, especially as most of us carry ten tons of carp in the back and we wont mention what extra we carry on our waists If I was QT I would be recalling these asap as they are leaving themselves open to legal action if one gives way and someone gets hurt or worse Quote
ciderman Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 While on the subject of front arms , Has any one tried these ? Not sure they would take much abuse . http://www.rdseng.co.uk/Radius%20arms.htm Quote
jules Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Coming from performance cars where weight shedding was pretty pointless for most people on a 2+ ton Landy it seems even more ridiculous, especially as most of us carry ten tons of carp in the back and we wont mention what extra we carry on our waists If I was QT I would be recalling these asap as they are leaving themselves open to legal action if one gives way and someone gets hurt or worse I like Daves stuff. The arms were developed for racing and trialing the challenge boys now use them as well but remember they have been around since before the challenging became so popular. Racer's and trailers use 205 to 235 tyres but challenge trucks use 12'50x35" tyres. its not the first set to brake but nothing is indestructible I've had three sets on different trucks and not had any fail yet Quote
Dave W Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 I've never liked the construction of the QT ones as all the ones I've seen are only part welded which seems a bit dodgy to me. I went for the Britpart caster correction ones instead as they look to be better made (fully welded) and are cheaper. Quote
Mark90 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 I've had three sets on different trucks and not had any fail yet You're obviously not trying hard enough I have seen these fail on racers and heard of them failing on challenge trucks. Only ever seen standard arms damaged through significant 'offs' not through fatigue as appears to be the case on the lightweight ones. Personally if I wanted castor corrected arms I'd be looking to modded standard arms, probably from Gwyn Lewis. Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 I like Daves stuff.The arms were developed for racing and trialing the challenge boys now use them as well but remember they have been around since before the challenging became so popular. Racer's and trailers use 205 to 235 tyres but challenge trucks use 12'50x35" tyres. its not the first set to brake but nothing is indestructible I've had three sets on different trucks and not had any fail yet If there is a limit to the usage of these then they should be sold as such, Mine were sold to me by Dave at Billing, If they are inherently a design problem that he is aware of then I'll see what sort reply I get. If they were to fail on the road and an accident ensued, the goods fit for the purpose surely comes to mind. Mine are to date ok, but I would not like to see a failure as above. Quote
TJ101 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Not got a picture on this machine of mine,, but is the same at the picture in post 1 cream crackered Tony, just wondering, if these ones on mine, were bought new, at the same time as yours ???? Quote
bishbosh Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 While on the subject of front arms , Has any one tried these ? Not sure they would take much abuse .http://www.rdseng.co.uk/Radius%20arms.htm Jase, If you really need corrected arms then send a pair to Gwyn Lewis - he bends LR ones to the angle you require. Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 Not got a picture on this machine of mine,, but is the same at the picture in post 1 cream crackered Tony, just wondering, if these ones on mine, were bought new, at the same time as yours ???? I fitted those to yours Tim when Nick had it. they are newer by a few months than mine I have the bill somewhere I think. Quote
smo Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Oh dear, doesnt look good and i have some on the D-Lander.... Also a set for sale on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/QT-radius-arms-defen...A1%7C240%3A1318 Quote
treebloke Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Jase,If you really need corrected arms then send a pair to Gwyn Lewis - he bends LR ones to the angle you require. Thats a brilliantly simple idea. I have looked on his web site, it does'nt say how much. Quote
bishbosh Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Thats a brilliantly simple idea.I have looked on his web site, it does'nt say how much. From memory it was £80 a pair exchange. Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 http://www.gwynlewis4x4.co.uk/page18.html Quote
jules Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 If there is a limit to the usage of these then they should be sold as such, Mine were sold to me by Dave at Billing,If they are inherently a bad design then I'll see what reply I get. If they were to fail on the road and an accident ensued, the goods fit for the purpose surely comes to mind. Mine are to date ok, but I would not like to see a failure as above. Find me a set that have failed on a standard car on or off the road IMHO I have torn spring hangers off chassis and ripped the hockey stick mount off chassis as well but I don't complain to Land Rover because I know I'm pushing the car beyond the bounds of its design but there is no warning from Land Rover is there about if you compete with this car it will suffer catastrophic chassis fracturing and component failure. Quote
landmannnn Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Oh dear, doesnt look good and i have some on the D-Lander....Also a set for sale on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/QT-radius-arms-defen...A1%7C240%3A1318 At least you know where they need strengthening now. Quote
white90 Posted January 1, 2009 Author Posted January 1, 2009 Jules they aren't standard items though. Tims have failed the pictured ones above have failed. In this instance are they only safe when fitted to a car that doesn't venture offroad? No they are being sold by a company that sells comp safari stuff, I would except them to be up to the task at hand Or am I expecting to much? Quote
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