Bjorn-Are Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 I bought my 1976 109" stw 2,25 diesel a month ago : By now I have changed the unoriginal japanese front seats of unknowned origin with deluxe highback seats and chased away som electical goblins from under the dash This afternoon I set off to change the wheelbearings on the front right hand side. When I removed the wheel I was amazed to see this : I was not aware of that there was disc brakes on the car and I dont think that the previous owner knew either. Can anyone help me identify these brakes? I guess that I eventually have to replace discs and pads, and it would be very nice to know where to get these items Quote
western Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 might be one of these kits http://www.zeus.uk.com/land-rover.php http://www.heystee-automotive.com/ smart Series station wagon too Welcome to LR4x4.com Please read new members forum info Quote
JimAttrill Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 How many pistons in the calipers? If only one, it may be one of the Zeus or the Dutch kit using a MB caliper. Any maker's name on the caliper anywhere? Also see if you can measure the diameter of the disk as that will be a giveaway. Quote
SeriousIIa Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 By looking ad it I can say it are not landrover related discbrakes. Can you make some pics from the caliper and the way it's attached. Then I can tell you if it is a Chris Perfect, TIC , Santana or homebrew set. Regards Bowy Quote
David Sparkes Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 If / when you have the wheel off again, I suggest you remove a pad, photograph it, and press it into a piece of paper or card, then draw round the outline of both the friction pad and the backing plate. This is a precaution so that if the worst comes to the worst you can visit a Motor Factors or GOOD Parts Shop and compare the outline you have against the outline of the pads in the back of his brake parts catalogue. Those flexible hoses look like steel braided to me, add a picture of how they attach to the caliper. Also a quick scrub of the calipers with a wire brush, especially around any raised letters, casting marks, etc, before taking any pictures may help SeriousIIa identify them. It may mean more trouble now, but overall I'd say those brakes are more of a bonus rather than a problem!! Good Luck. Quote
Steve H Posted January 4, 2009 Posted January 4, 2009 Bjorn, I wondering if you machine is an ex Norwegian military Land Rover & if so could this have been a mod the military did? Maybe worth making some enquiries in that direction. Steve Quote
Bjorn-Are Posted January 4, 2009 Author Posted January 4, 2009 How many pistons in the calipers? If only one, it may be one of the Zeus or the Dutch kit using a MB caliper. Any maker's name on the caliper anywhere? Also see if you can measure the diameter of the disk as that will be a giveaway. I can`t find any inscriptions on the caliper, havent gotten around to measure it yet By looking ad it I can say it are not landrover related discbrakes. kan you make some pics from the caliper and the way it's attached. Then I can tell you if it is a Chris Perfect, TIC , Santana or homebrew set. Does this help? Those flexible hoses look like steel braided to me, add a picture of how they attach to the caliper.It may mean more trouble now, but overall I'd say those brakes are more of a bonus rather than a problem!! I`m very happy about the discs, only problem I can see is identifying the kit. Steel braid brakelines : Bjorn, I wondering if you machine is an ex Norwegian military Land Rover & if so could this have been a mod the military did? Maybe worth making some enquiries in that direction.Steve The car is ex military, but different from the "standard" military Norwegian cars. The car is supposed to be a standart 109" diesel stw. A picture of the obviously replaced brake reservoir : More pictures at http://www.lrforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=33780 Quote
SeriousIIa Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Bjorn, They look like the later TIC (dutch firm) type. The earlier ones used different calipers with MB100 pads. But yours uses a different one. You could send the pic to Paul Heijstee (Heijstee Automotive) for identification and informatie about which blocks to use. He should be able to help you. It can take a few days for him to answer a mail so be patient Good luck! Quote
JBorges Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 2 pics from heystee website (http://www.heystee-automotive.com/) Quote
Gazzar Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 2 pics from heystee website (http://www.heystee-automotive.com/) Amazing price! I think I'll stick to my plan of DIY. Or try to get a Santana in a Spanish scrappie!! Amazing! G. Quote
Bjorn-Are Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 Bj You could send the pic to Paul Heijstee (Heijstee Automotive) for identification and informatie about which blocks to use. He should be able to help you. It can take a few days for him to answer a mail so be patient Good luck! I sendt a mail at 1355, and 1413 Paul sendt his reply : "Dear Bjørn-Are, Thank you for your e-mail. Yes, this could be a kit I assembled and sold. The brake pads are also used on the new Santana PS10 and the old Peugeot J5 / Citroen C25 / Fiat Ducato van of a particular year. You can also upgrade to the ventilated disc system by changing the discs and calipers. If you have any questions please contact me. Regards, Paul Heystee" This relieves my worries regarding the brakes, now I just have to find a local dealer of the mentioned carbrands. Thanks alot for all suggestions and thoughts! Quote
JBorges Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I know a guy in Portugal sells old Santanas, the email is landroversdoteles@iol.pt Quote
Bjorn-Are Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 I know a guy in Portugal sells old Santanas, the email is landroversdoteles@iol.pt Thanks alot, do you think he speak english? Quote
Gazzar Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Has anyone fitted Santana Discs to a Stage 1 v8 front axle? G. Quote
JBorges Posted January 6, 2009 Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks alot, do you think he speak english? Spanish and english for sure, also the guy is a member of this forum with user LRSTELES. Quote
missingsid Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Has anyone fitted Santana Discs to a Stage 1 v8 front axle?G. Why not use RRC Imperial axle parts? Marc. Quote
Gazzar Posted April 3, 2009 Posted April 3, 2009 Why not use RRC Imperial axle parts?Marc. Marc, Tell me more! The hub I can understand, but the swivel housing? G. Quote
Martin Cooper Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I have the Paul Heijstee (Heijstee Automotive) Chris Perfect TI console disc kit on my Series 109" There was a Mercedes kit but My pads when needed were branded TRW - Part no.s GDB 695 (WVA 20741) from Citroen C25, Fiat Talento & Peugeot J5. Hope that helps someone. (Heijstee Automotive) Quote
Martin Cooper Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 More info on that pad part number: I confirm I fitted: Brand: TRW Part No: GDB 695 (WVA 20741) Citroen C25 Fiat Talento Peugeot J5 Also TALBOT EXPRESS same van) I undertand that EBC Brakes PEUGEOT J5 2.5 D EBC Ultimax Front Brake Pads - DP425 are the same part, but I cannot confirm this. Quote
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