Se7enUp Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I would like to (H&S says I now need to) get some Lantra approved instruction now that I'm using my Defender on a regular basis for event support. Idealy I'd like to complete the following Lantra approved courses: LANTRA Professional 4x4 Off-Road Driver course (2 days) LANTRA H&S and Risk Management in Winching course (1 day) 4 Counties 4x4 offer both courses and allow you to use your own vehicle. They are also pretty reasonably priced. However, they are not exactly local to me so I'd also need to factor in some accomodation. Does anyone have any experience of using them for training? Or does anyone know of any "cost effective" (read cheap!) training closer to home?(Surrey/Hampshire/Berkshire borders) It needs to be Lantra approved/certificated. Quote
Mark Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Speak to David Lovejoy - he posts as HonitonHobbit on here - as he is a LANTRA approved instructor. He is based in the west country, but has been known to brave the wilds of Hampshire... Quote
v8bertha Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 Yup, Mr Lovepump is your man, he trained all of the ShireLRC marshalls. (cheque to the usual address please Luvvers ) Quote
Se7enUp Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 Brilliant - thanks guys. I've PM'd Mr Lovepump Quote
western Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 now that I'm using my Defender on a regular basis for event support what sort of events, I use my 110 as a recovery vehicle for the MSA & they don't require anything like certification. Quote
Se7enUp Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 I'm using my 90 to provide support for a company who organise running events (the sort of people who like to run through the stuff we like to drive through!) I'm doing it through my own company and in order to satisfy H&S requirements I'd like to be classed as "competent" Under the Provision and Use of Work Equipment Regulations (PUWER), anyone who is provided with specialist equipment (4×4 vehicles come under this title) must be trained in their use. "Failure to comply with PUWER is likely to result in action being taken by the Health & Safety Executive (often together with the police) in the event of a serious accident." I'd like to get some proper training (I've only been self taught ) and this seems a good excuse to to do just that Quote
western Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 I see, my rally recovery is all voluntary & not paid work & it's one of my hobbies.but I have had training & update it each year in using my winch to safely recover rallycars & have completed a 4x4 driver training course. Quote
dirkthe1 Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 a tangent, but did anyone see that documentry on the hse? titled the fun police.classic soon you'll need to do a course to use a screwdriver-at work were ment to use a cherry picker for practically everything- i did suggest we buy a crane and i'll just tie on to that isnt puwer over-ridden by specific industry laws- i know some of the arb ones are like that-if that makes sense. and check its fully tax deductable!!!i did a course then found out i couldnt use it all which was annoying! rant over (tax man charged me £100 for registering 3 days too late today) Quote
Se7enUp Posted January 5, 2009 Author Posted January 5, 2009 I'm not going into my views on H&S, suffuce to say it can stop stupid people doing stupid things but also stops sensible people doing sensible things (like using a step ladder to change a light bulb!) I'm aiming to go for this qualification as it seems to offer me some useful training and a decent industry recognised qualification. Quote
dirkthe1 Posted January 5, 2009 Posted January 5, 2009 true-it does have its uses. i didnt realise that c&g did a qualification like that-would that bring your insurance (work vehicle/liability) down at all? Quote
Mark Jenkins Posted January 7, 2009 Posted January 7, 2009 Sorry to butt in here and drag things O/T, but this is a pet hate of mine - H&S does not stop you using a stepladder to change a lightbulb. Working at Height Regs 2005 say: You must first try to avoid and then prevent a fall, before trying to minimise the consequences of a fall. Longer duration jobs generally justify a better standard of fall protection eg. tower or cherry picker. A ladder or stepladder can be acceptable for a short duration job eg. changing a lightbulb when building a tower would not be reasonable because changing the bulb will only take a few seconds. But several rows of bulbs, or changing light fittings, or fitting 5 foot fluorescent tubes, would probably justify better access equipment. hope this is vaguely useful/relkevant - it does seem to relate logically to the safe use of any equipment. M. I'm not going into my views on H&S, suffuce to say it can stop stupid people doing stupid things but also stops sensible people doing sensible things (like using a step ladder to change a light bulb!) Quote
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