Steering box and rear window

[steve200TDi]

I have recently bought a second hand rear window for my defender 90. Does anybody know what they stick the window in with or what can you use. One forumers suggestion is below:

Pretty certain it's called Dum Dum. Here

HTH

Ivan

The other question is has anybody successfully replaced the steering box output shaft seals either on the car or off with the shaft still in place (I'm not wanting to strip the box), as my box is leaking and I'm not confident about changing the seals successfully. Do the seals come out easily?

Thanks for your help.

Steve

[western]

I used LR's glazing strip 78159 when I last did my rear window or a suitable glazing mastic will do the job.

the output shaft seal in my 6 bolt Gemmer box was successfully replaced about 10 years ago & it's still fine, only had to remove the drop arm to relace it.

[steve200TDi]

I used LR's glazing strip 78159 when I last did my rear window or a suitable glazing mastic will do the job.

the output shaft seal in my 6 bolt Gemmer box was successfully replaced about 10 years ago & it's still fine, only had to remove the drop arm to relace it.

Oh ok, well I might have a go at replacing the seal on my steering box, I guess you drained the box first?

The land rover glazing strip 78159 - is this a part number for a gasket type thing that fits the window or a roll or?

Thanks for your help.

Steve

[western]

the fliud was drained & seal swapped, thats a LR part number last time I got some it was on a roll, it's like sticky mastic about 1/2 inch wide & about 1/4 inch thick.

[OilIT]

the fliud was drained & seal swapped, thats a LR part number last time I got some it was on a roll, it's like sticky mastic about 1/2 inch wide & about 1/4 inch thick.

if you go to your local glazing store they will sell you a role of double sided mastic tape that they use for sticking sealed glazing units into wooden window frames. I used this (it was cheaper than the stuff from LR) and it works brilliantly - since having it lying around, I've found it useful for a ton of things as well

[western]

yep, that'll do the job

[dantd5]

the output shaft seal in my 6 bolt Gemmer box was successfully replaced about 10 years ago & it's still fine, only had to remove the drop arm to relace it.

Ralph makes everything sound like "Super man flying on skyscrapers"! I must admit that stripping the drop arm off it's position is where the fun begins! I managed to get mine off after hard whacking, bashing and banging. ended up taking off the steering box and found out that the severe whacking knackered my swivel pin bearing! I'd advice taking off the PAS box. This gives easy accessability to the droparm!!

[steve200TDi]

Well hopefully renewing the seal will cure the problem but whether its easy as ralph said I'll have to find out, fingers crossed though.

I guess you have to bleed the system when you add in the pas fluid after, is there a bleed nipple on top of the steering box?

Ralph, which pipe did you remove to drain the system, i spose you can unscrew any pipe off the system as long as its low done and easy to get too.

Steve

[western]

was a long time ago, I think the garage just drained the reservior & the fluid feed pipe on the pump was disconnected until the majority of fluid stopped running out. seal was extraced & a new one fitted in place, system refilled & bled.

[steve200TDi]

Hi,

After ordering an output seal kit, I finally got around to fitting it the weekend before last.

I decided to take the box off as it is only 4 extra bolts and a bolt holding the steering linkage on. I used a hydraulic puller to get the drop arm off, a load bang was heard as it finally gave in and popped off the shaft. The old seal did show signs of splits and perishing. I removed all of the seals and gave it a good clean. The shaft did look a bit scored but you can't get you finger in there to feel for grooves etc. I fitted all back in and filled it up. All was well, until last weekend when I checked for leaks....The leak was back.

A mate at work recommended a 'speedy sleeve' which is a very thin metal sleeve that can be pressed over the output shaft to form a new smooth surface. I had a brief search, but no mention of using them on steering boxes.

It could be another option before buying a new steering box. So has anyone any experience with a 'speedy sleeve'?

If not, does anyone know the diameter of the output shaft where the seals fit?

Thanks

Steve

[David Wright]

If you are going to put a sleeve over the existing shaft the original seal will not fit and you will have to source a different seal.

Some two years ago at the Peterborough Show there was a gentleman from Adwest selling reconditioned steering boxes and if my memory serves me correctly he explained that the problem with the existing steering boxes was that shaft was moving downwards and damaging the seal.

Therefore just to replace the seal was counter productive. Of course the first question was why had it taken some 20 years to work out what the problem was and come up with a solution but according to this gentleman if you buy an Adwest replacement box the seal will never give another problem - The world holds it's breath!!!

[steve200TDi]

Thw whole idea of a speedy sleeve is that it is so thin that you can use the existing seals. This is why I thought it may be another option to consider.

Steve