bishbosh Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 My £23 tube bender wont hold pressure . Took it in to my local hydraulics place and they are telling me that it is very difficult to take apart and they would have to send it off to be repaired. As Tubela want £100 for a seal kit, sending the machine to them doesn't exactly look too attractive financially! So, has anyone successfully taken one apart and replaced seals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 No, mine leaks a bit and Mr Moglite gave me some Citroen hydraulic fluid (I think) which swells the seals and stops the leaks a bit. How bad is it? Can you just keep pouring it in the top?! think of it as fuel to run the bender on! At the end of the day, what is SO hard about taking it apart? I'd have a crack and just replace the seals with off the shelf equivalents at 5% of the price? Al. P.S. You can do mine while you're at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BogMonster Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Why not buy another one for £23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkrentfitter Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 if you strip it we use a company called allseals in norwich which if you send them the seals they will match them up,never failed us yet at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 You havent broke it already Bish , Cant be that difficult to take apart , and seals are only pennies from the right places . Drop it in if you are passing , That reminds me I still have yer Front cage here , We are starting a job in Highbridge this week , so I may be down your way to drop it off . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
integerspin Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Anywhere online to get seals dirt cheap? I need to reseal a tube bender and make a ram for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Anywhere online to get seals dirt cheap?I need to reseal a tube bender and make a ram for something. Not sure about online , But i get my seals locally from these fellas http://www.barnwell.co.uk/products.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Maybe the 'cap of brake fluid' trick that works so well with power steering systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Mr BishBosh Please will you as a longer term member remember and use in the future the LR4x4 Forums 'special features' Mr W is "expert" at taking things apart............. Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landroversforever Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 but dont ask him if you want it back together this side of 2050 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 but dont ask him if you want it back together this side of 3050 Bish if you do take it apart can you get some pics as i have one two, as an aside mine is missing the in/out lever knob and wondered if you have a pic of the correct one. Cheers, Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Muddy - do you have the shaft it fits on (that rotates 180 degrees to change direction of travel)? If so, its just a short a steel arm with a ball on the end - I can grab a pic tomorrow? Cheers, al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Yup the threaded shaft is there its just missing the ball. As the end of the shaft is sharp and the lever often requires some effort to move it starts to mash your hands up after a while (not that thats really spurred me into doing anything about it ) A pic would be handy, and if its what i think it is i might be able to nick one off a jcb control lever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Mr BishBoshPlease will you as a longer term member remember and use in the future the LR4x4 Forums 'special features' Mr W is "expert" at taking things apart............. Nige Critically Bish wants to put it back together again which may be a problem . That said, how tricky can it be and, if you fail, you can send it tubela any they can lighten your wallet by £100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuman Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 I have much the same problem with mine, not sure whats the best fluid to use in it ethier, sadly mine wasn't £23quid and is missing the former which will do roll cage tube Anyway, I pestered tubela enough to give me the diagrams and parts list. prices are probably out of date but might be of use. not sure how well this will display, but the forums won't let me upload .doc files SPARE PARTS PRICE LIST – MODEL H3PR PUMP – 1ST MAY 2007 RAM & CYLINDER PARTS for 2/3/4/5M Item No. No. Required Description Price each £ 1 1 Cylinder Assembly only 195.00 8 1 Handle Assembly 65.50 13 1 Roller 8.20 16 1 Pivot 9.30 17 1 Outer Plunger 45.50 19 &20 1 Inner Plunger & Collar (Assembly) 57.50 21 1 Plunger Body 57.00 23 1 Valve Block Connecting Bolt 56.00 24 1 *1/4" (6 x 10 x 1mm) Valve Retaining Screw 0.80 25 --------- Discontinued --------- 34 1 Forward Connecting Tube 18.50 35 1 Forward Connecting Bolt 54.00 37 1 Reservoir Cover 127.00 41 1 Oil Filler Cap 24.00 42 & 53 1 Oil Filter Cap & Filter 39.00 43 1 Oil Filter Paper Gasket 1.60 44 1 Front Gland Ring 53.00 45 1 Front Bush 54.00 46 1 Ram 130.00 49 1 Cover Gasket 5.50 54 1 Plunger Spring 7.50 55 --------- Discontinued --------- 60 1 Roller Pin 6.80 61 1 Handle-Plastic Grip 3.80 62 1 2 1/8" O.D x 1 3/4" I.D. 'O' Seal 3.40 63 1 1 1/8" O.D x 7/8" I.D. 'O' Seal 1.50 64 3 7/8" O.D x 1 1/16" I.D. 'O' Seal 1.50 66 1 2" BSP Bonded Seal 6.20 67 3 3/8" BSP Bonded Seal 1.50 69 --------- Discontinued --------- 70 2 1/4" BSW Bonded Seal 1.50 71 1 5/8"dia. Cup Washer 7.95 72 3 *3/8" BSF x 1" (10 x 25 x 1.25mm) Long Socket Head Cap Screw 0.80 73 6 * 5/16" x 1 1/4" BSW (8 x 30 x 1.25mm) Long Socket Head Cap Screw 0.80 76 2 *1/4" BSF x 1/2"(6x15x1mm) Long Hex. Set Screw 0.80 77 --------- Discontinued --------- * Metric Threads are now being used - Check thread before ordering ENGINEERING CO. LTD Item No. No. Required Description Price each £ 79 1 7/8" BSF (22 x 2.5mm) Full Nut 3.90 81 1 3/16"dia x 1 1/4" Long Grooved Pin 0.80 82 2 5/8"dia 'E' Clips 1.50 83 1 Leather Washer 3.20 85 2 1/4"dia Ball 0.80 86 2 1/4" O.D. Tubing Nut 4.70 87 2 1/4" O.D. Tubing Sleeve 4.70 88 1 Cylinder Rear Cap 66.50 91 1 Front Cylinder Packing 21.00 92 1 3/4" Hardened Cap 11.00 93 & 109 1 Control Valve Block (see below) --------- 94,78 & 96 1 Control Valve Extension (Assembly) 38.50 95 1 Control Valve Cap (side plate casting) 38.75 97 1 Rear Cylinder Gasket 6.50 98 1 Front Cylinder Gasket 6.50 99 1 Rear Packing Ring 21.50 100 1 Rear Ram Collar 42.00 101 1 Front Packing Ring (2 Part assembly) 42.50 102 2 2 1/4" Cup Washers 7.60 103 1 Control Valve Cap Gasket 3.90 104 1 1" O.D. x 3/4" I.D. 'O' Seal 1.50 106 1 3/8" BSP Nut (12mm x 1mm from MID 1998) 9.00 107 1 5/8"dia Washer 0.80 108 4 *1/4" BSW x 7/8" (6 x 25 x 1mm) Socket Head Cap Screw 0.80 109 1 Control Valve supplied complete with item No's 93,94,96,106,107,111 237.00 110 1 Reservoir 168.00 111 1 Control Valve Arm Knob 2.95 112 1 Ram/Cylinder Assembly complete 510.00 ORDER Ram / Cylinder Spares fro H3M / 4H / 4M / 5H / SM REF: State Model 1 Cylinder 310.00 20" Stoke 1 Ram 205.00 State Model 1 Ram/Cylinder Unit complete Assemble 670.00 Rear Ram Packing Assembly use items No’s – 63-99-100-101 & 102 Service Kits available as follows: - Model H3PR, H3PRSF 75.00 Spare Parts Kits for H2M - H3M - 4M & 5H per Ram/Cylinder 45.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted January 27, 2009 Author Share Posted January 27, 2009 Ha ha! I was just about to post the same info! I spoke to and then emailed Tubela yesterday and got the same info back by email today. I have a 2008 pricelist and prices are about 5% higher on my sheet. Maybe we should have a "self help" group where we all take our H3PR's and try and fix them together!! What size former are you looking for.... could possibly lend you one if I have it....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Sounds like you've got more chance of making a good one from them all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Here's a pic Muddy: Ruuman, I'm near winchester and you're welcome to borrow a former. Cheers, Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuman Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 cool cheers guys, once the weather gets better I may take you up on the offer, hopefully I'll be caging my little sisters suzuki as long as I can get the bender repaired.... and fix the tubela.... boom boom! sorry long day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Cheers al just what i thought, At about £3.50 for a new one i might have to splash out and buy a genuine one We could nearly start a club with the amount of these on here, mine has a big blue metal box with the tubela logo on it with all the formers in, is this a genuine thing? anyone else got one? Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruuman Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Cheers al just what i thought, At about £3.50 for a new one i might have to splash out and buy a genuine one We could nearly start a club with the amount of these on here, mine has a big blue metal box with the tubela logo on it with all the formers in, is this a genuine thing? anyone else got one? Will. maybe we should ask for our own forum yeah that's how the kit comes from the factory, mine is sans box as are most that come up for sale. One thing to bear in mind, tubela only ever took cheques and postage was pretty unreasonable last time I spoke to them (admittedly that was a while back, hopefully things are a bit better), but you 3.50 part may cost 25quid If you strip yours can you post up a few pics as I'll be attacking mine soon too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 Your wish is my command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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