leeds Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 The back of my 110 which is my overland vehicle has +2" springs and X springs fitted. The rear shocks take a hammering so am considering using twin rear shocks. So any advice/photos etc about fitting twin rear shocks to a 110 Regards Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I believe Mike mmgemini was doing this or has done it on his 110. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave W Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 If you're in the area you're welcome to pop in for a look see, hopefully I'll have my motor at Frickley for the trial, I think I'm setting out with Matthew so we're going to try and give the motors a shake down prior to the Muddy Truckers so you can take a look then if you want to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soutie Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I have rear shocks on the back of my 110. Twin shocks did make a huge difference when I traveled across Africa fully loaded. Most Safari companies in Kenya and Tanzania run them on their Safari Landrovers. You need to get a pair of brackets for the axle and two standard rear mounts. Photo's of the rear mounts after I replaced the back axle after getting back from Africa. Quite a few supplier do them. e.g. http://www.mailorder4x4.com/acatalog/BA_2162_LI.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Brendan It's one of the GUNNER jobs. Gunner get it done. I've got the brackets. All I want is a tame welder.... I THINK MPS 4X4 are selling the brackets now. Jon Kelly had twins fitted to his double cab. Nice on the road. mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waveydave Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Have had twin rear shox on the rear of my overloaded disco for about 4 years now and cansay its well worth the effort, not only to prevent failure on rough roads but helps keep a hevey body under control over tricky situations, less roll overs and smashed windows. Set up can be made for very litle in a few hours all you need is a good fabricator and some steel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Dave. May I ask how you measured the chassis holes....On a Defender only the left chassis rail needs drilling. Did you fit crush tubes to the chassis where the mounts fitted ? mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds Posted February 15, 2009 Author Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Soutie, which shocks did you use on the back of your 110? What is the best angle for the shocks? I can see an arguement for having the shocks verticals so that the main line of force is in the direction of the shock. Against that I can see possible problem with the shocks having to be postioned too far 'outboard' to avoid fouling the spring. Problem with leverage on bottom mount and where to locate top mount. Hope that explanation makes sense. Good point about the crush tube Mike. I will not be fabricating anything myself as my skills with a welder is even less then my skills with a set of spanners. There again I know a few people with the appropriate skills. So any advice/guidance is appreciated. Regards Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 QT do a rather nice looking kit (despite my opinion on the standard of some of their welding) which uses 2 front socks (pin-pin) on the rear... makes some sense as you only need to carry one type of spare shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacr2man Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Twin rears work very well esp on corrugations in high ambient as it spreads the work load , and thereby cuts down heat generation . I also use koni adjustable and run them softer than when used singly which also helps with work/heat build up and less jar at speed on corrugations , also they last a lot longer . I am intending to do same on front , when I get a round tuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmgemini Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 Hi Soutie, which shocks did you use on the back of your 110?What is the best angle for the shocks? I can see an arguement for having the shocks verticals so that the main line of force is in the direction of the shock. Against that I can see possible problem with the shocks having to be postioned too far 'outboard' to avoid fouling the spring. Problem with leverage on bottom mount and where to locate top mount. Hope that explanation makes sense. Good point about the crush tube Mike. I will not be fabricating anything myself as my skills with a welder is even less then my skills with a set of spanners. There again I know a few people with the appropriate skills. So any advice/guidance is appreciated. Regards Brendan Brendan Ring me mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soutie Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I have decarbon's all round. From what I understand the holes for the rear top mounts were already in the chassis. Crush tubes where fitted for the top mounts. (I did not fit them but Jim from Gigglepin (90SV) did, so might be worth asking him. Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Brendan, if you go vertical remember that you'll have to use longer stroke dampers than you do if inclined, and yes, the internal forces are less when vertically mounted thanks to the greater piston travel/amount of axle travel compared to an inclined damper. As I mentioned on AULRO, a single Koni Raid would probably do the job well. (it's what they are designed for) It has double the oil volume of a normal Koni Heavy Track, and no need for extra mounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluespanner Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 One of my firends has a 90 with front style turrets on the back, and the shocker in the center of the spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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