orange rover Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 looking for one for a defender - who makes them? looking for one with a ball joint at one end - not the paddocks type with two bushes. cheers spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 http://www.qtservices.co.uk/region.asp?id=346 http://www.equipe4x4.com/inglese/ARTICOLO....D=P&NFOTO=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 if it's for a standard vehicle, I wouldn't bother, more useful for a vehicle with a lift over 2 inches though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange rover Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 if it's for a stanard vehicle, I wouldn't bother, more useful for a vehicle with a lift over 2 inches though. its for a challenge truck - front axle is not in the center due to lift. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange rover Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 http://www.qtservices.co.uk/region.asp?id=346http://www.equipe4x4.com/inglese/ARTICOLO....D=P&NFOTO=0 qt is hard to reach by phone as well mail equipe is "a bit" expensive any other suppliers? cheers spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 I am sure that I read that even with 3" of lift the sideways location of the axle is only out by 4mm or something tiny? Which in Land Rover terms is nothing The whole point of the Panhard rod being close to parallel is to keep the axle in the same lateral position. Unless you are fitting a non LR axle and need to play with the Panhard rod length I wouldn't bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange rover Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 I am sure that I read that even with 3" of lift the sideways location of the axle is only out by 4mm or something tiny? Which in Land Rover terms is nothingThe whole point of the Panhard rod being close to parallel is to keep the axle in the same lateral position. Unless you are fitting a non LR axle and need to play with the Panhard rod length I wouldn't bother not that much - i admit i'm also knocking out the panhard bushes quite fast - so therefore looking for a solution with a rose joint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roybatty666 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 not that much - i admiti'm also knocking out the panhard bushes quite fast - so therefore looking for a solution with a rose joint I though rose joints die even faster as they are not designed to be dunked in mud so are not sealed? How about a very good quality poly bush? I use Original metal elastics but don't compete so don't eat them that fast, but in some pivot points maybe Polys' are the way to go? I am sure some of the big boys with their custom rigs can comment with some actual experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnover4x4 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Ive got a scrapiron rose jointed rod, the joints are forever getting renewed. Around 10quid each, but cant find any greasables.If I had to get another, would go with the paddock item as bsh will probably last longer. Paddocks do an adjustable rod for 58quid. Uses oe type bushes.Also Trubrit IIRC do an adjustble rod as do Rakeways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Polys last an even shorter amount of time if you start flexing them. Rose joint life realy depends on the quality of the joint and how you look after them - if you look at any rally car they will all use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange rover Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Polys last an even shorter amount of time if you start flexing them. Rose joint life realy depends on the quality of the joint and how you look after them - if you look at any rally car they will all use them. i looked at the paddock one - not sure whether it will work since i think the suspension twists the joint and therefore undo the thread. rose jointz seems to make more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Just a vote for: http://www.rakeway.co.uk/steering.htm very nicely made bit of kit. Runs normal bushes at either end (no rose joints) and the threaded adjuster in the middle allows the ends to be clocked round so they're sitting at rest and not permanently distorting the bushes as happens with the standard panhard and >2" lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Polys last an even shorter amount of time if you start flexing them. Rose joint life realy depends on the quality of the joint and how you look after them - if you look at any rally car they will all use them. Only if it's a hard durometer poly. Super Pro ones last as they are sensibly engineered (ie. not too hard) BTW, rose joints flog out in no time in dust, dirt and mud, you just keep replacing them in rallying and speedway. The only way to make a rose joint last is use these http://www.sealsit.com/rodend.asp or these http://www.sealsit.com/rodendboots.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white90 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I have some Of the above seals and rose joint spacers here if anyone wants them for a forum donation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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