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Here is a sneek preview of the TDV8 engine and D3 6 speed manual box with a LT230 defender transfer box we are fitting into a 100" defender :)

The video is carp quality as its on a phone but ill upload some better ones soon.

Just does go to show anything is possibile and you can get the engine runing out of the car even tho people say its not possibile :)

Lots more work to come yet :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZH4vicB9o

Pete

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Re the axles, to make into a rolling chassis that would drive JUST to move it we will use some standard LR ones, then upgrade them after the main problems and body is delt with.

Im still a million miles away yet from a driving car because there is so much more developement for the electronics and the basic connections between the 3 parts of the drive train to finalise.

Ill be at is for years lol :(

Pete

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Interesting project! Is the D3 gearbox up to the job, though? It's got to live with a very large chunck of torque.

A for axles you'll be wanting one that includes the number '9' or '60' and has some 1.5" OD 35 spline shafts inside it. :ph34r:

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At last,someone is actually trying to make it work :blink: ............I shall be watching this

Very cool. I have to play devils advocate though and do some poking. I was crazy gung ho to get a TDV6 into my RRC and ended up settling for a Td5 because aside from having a lot of trouble getting my hands on a whole TDV6 write off I was talked out of it by the experts. I spoke to a bunch of the UK tuning specialists and eventually found someone who had or was witness to a TDV6 running outside of a RR Sport or D3. He said the problem isn't getting the thing running outside its original truck, it's getting it to run right once you pull off. Whatever contraption they had come up with sounded sweet in the yard and at idle, but as son as you took it down the road is was a big pile of poo.

I can probably answer the question of why you didn't go auto... the auto box incorporates a whole raft of extra sensors, getting a manual TDV setup running right theoretically is a whole lot easier then having to worry about all the extra elextronics involved with the auto?

George

PS, I'm 3rd in the running for the best job now, votes greatly appreciated!!! www.islandreefjob.com/george

EDIT: Shoulda said - I've got the green eyed monster big time. And asked how much for a TDV in a RRC? :D

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Yup, I guess the auto box was ditched because, with a stick shift there's no computer arguing about ratios and wheel speed sensors...

I've never done it but I guess with pistons going up and down and some spark plugs to be tickled it'd be a straight-up job for Megasquirt? If you're fooling the OEM ECU then fair play, I take my hat off to you - I can't even get a different turbo working on my 300Tdi! :)

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Yup, I guess the auto box was ditched because, with a stick shift there's no computer arguing about ratios and wheel speed sensors...

Ohhhhh yes there is...

TDV6 manual versions have a gear position sensor (handily placed on the top of the gearbox so you have to take the 'kin gearbox out to change it) which requires calibration to the vehicle speed input for it to work properly, because I had to do this to a D3 the other day which flipped its lid (still at least it will go, which is more than can be said for the other TDVbuggerall in the corner at the moment). The thing is too stupid to understand what gear it is in so you need to drive it along in every gear so it can look at the sensor, look at the road speed and decide what gear it might be in from the speed vs revs...

Must have been from the same school of thought that decided on the electric handbrake :rolleyes:

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Hi

I didnt go for the auto box just to try and keep it simple ,, if thats actualy possibile.

The engine is running a LR modifyed code ecu i have developed to run it outside of the car, it has been tested in a working RRS running down the road with no problems, also on a working manual D3 before i got to this stage.

Ive no doubt it will still work when i squeese it into the defender.

As you know there are many things inside the engine ecu that read from sensors to alter the mapping, this is what has taken me 12 months of research to work round and eventualy we have come up with it running not only out side the car but with no cats , no dpf and not needing a signal from any speed sensors.

Ill post more pics and info as i go on.

Regards Pete

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Hi

I didnt go for the auto box just to try and keep it simple ,, if thats actualy possibile.

The engine is running a LR modifyed code ecu i have developed to run it outside of the car, it has been tested in a working RRS running down the road with no problems, also on a working manual D3 before i got to this stage.

Ive no doubt it will still work when i squeese it into the defender.

As you know there are many things inside the engine ecu that read from sensors to alter the mapping, this is what has taken me 12 months of research to work round and eventualy we have come up with it running not only out side the car but with no cats , no dpf and not needing a signal from any speed sensors.

Ill post more pics and info as i go on.

Regards Pete

can you stop upseting me please

anybody want a td5 with auto box a feel a upgrade coming on

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Hi

I didnt go for the auto box just to try and keep it simple ,, if thats actualy possibile.

The engine is running a LR modifyed code ecu i have developed to run it outside of the car, it has been tested in a working RRS running down the road with no problems, also on a working manual D3 before i got to this stage.

Ive no doubt it will still work when i squeese it into the defender.

As you know there are many things inside the engine ecu that read from sensors to alter the mapping, this is what has taken me 12 months of research to work round and eventualy we have come up with it running not only out side the car but with no cats , no dpf and not needing a signal from any speed sensors.

Ill post more pics and info as i go on.

Regards Pete

This has been done in the VW world for a few years now. Immobiliser defeats and switching off of the external can bus options like the air con, abs, tsc etc. I have witnessed a very clever american guy reading the hexidecimal code for a vw engine and changing the code to switch the imobilser etc off.

Good luck with this, my ideal landover, just with the auto and the suspension from a D3 aswell!

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  • 13 years later...
On 3/18/2009 at 7:54 PM, Bell-Auto-Services said:

Here is a sneek preview of the TDV8 engine and D3 6 speed manual box with a LT230 defender transfer box we are fitting into a 100" defender :)

The video is carp quality as its on a phone but ill upload some better ones soon.

Just does go to show anything is possibile and you can get the engine runing out of the car even tho people say its not possibile :)

Lots more work to come yet :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZH4vicB9o

Pete

Apologies for reviving a super old thread. Just wondering what happened with this project? Did it get up and running successfully? I'd love to know more about such a conversion if you are willing to share.

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