jericho Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Can anyone recommend a suitable joint to use for a 1 link and panhard rod suspension on the front of a landrover type vehicle? I am concerned about the shock stresses sent rearward through the single link when the wheels hit an immovable object. I thought about johnny/hiem style things,but the whole of the front end would depend on the shear strength of a single bolt.it might be possible,buy I haven't found a joint that looks big enough - and I would much prefer a joint with some sort of shock absorbing qualities ala johnny. There was a trailer hitch ball joint jobby - bit like an X-joint - on Pirate a while back.I think it as made by Ballistic fabrications,but their website is down at the moment. Any suggestions? Pics would be even better. Thanks, Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Why not use an x-joint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Why not use an x-joint? It may not be out of the question,but again the strength of the bolts worries me - 3 M10 bolts to stop the whole front axle moving backwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will_warne Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 There are ways of engineering around that. How about mounting the joint flat onto a surface (so the whole joint is in compression / shear)? Another option is make up a cup to hold the joint...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoggyN Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Johnny joint? More joints here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Eric Laurentides was the chap on Pirate, his english isnt good though - French works best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jericho Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 There are ways of engineering around that. How about mounting the joint flat onto a surface (so the whole joint is in compression / shear)? Another option is make up a cup to hold the joint...... Joint on flat surface - yes,solves problem of bolts in tension,but they are still in shear from vertical accelerating/braking forces. Joint in a cup ? - not sure. Dolly - thanks.I found the thread on Pirate,but it looks like the chap has disappeared owing customers money! Found these - Evolution fabrications Frankenhiems Inch and a quarter though-bolt but no poly bushing - they could be a bit harsh (and pricey!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Amazing pictures!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Found these - Evolution fabrications FrankenhiemsInch and a quarter though-bolt but no poly bushing - they could be a bit harsh (and pricey!) It's only holding your front axle on, I'd just use a LR track rod end and have done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollythelw Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Frankenheims are kinda spendy, very nice though measure a straight trailer hitch, bribe nearest CNC chaps - have Erics joint made yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Joint on flat surface - yes,solves problem of bolts in tension,but they are still in shear from vertical accelerating/braking forces.Joint in a cup ? - not sure. Dolly - thanks.I found the thread on Pirate,but it looks like the chap has disappeared owing customers money! Found these - Evolution fabrications Frankenhiems Inch and a quarter though-bolt but no poly bushing - they could be a bit harsh (and pricey!) FWIW I think whilst the big one might be best over the smaller one, defo don't use the flimsy drinks can in the middle -won't be strong enough HTH Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbymogs Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 It may not be out of the question,but again the strength of the bolts worries me - 3 M10 bolts to stop the whole front axle moving backwards. Nick Watts aka Rogue Vogue is using this set up on his new build with very good results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noggy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Joint on flat surface - yes,solves problem of bolts in tension,but they are still in shear from vertical accelerating/braking forces.Joint in a cup ? - not sure. Dolly - thanks.I found the thread on Pirate,but it looks like the chap has disappeared owing customers money! Found these - Evolution fabrications Frankenhiems Inch and a quarter though-bolt but no poly bushing - they could be a bit harsh (and pricey!) i agree with nige, that Nestea can will seriously limit articulation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Nick Watts aka Rogue Vogue is using this set up on his new build with very good results If he's still building it how can the results be good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddy Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 If he's still building it how can the results be good? Good results from a truck still in build? sounds Extreeeeeme! B) Can the holes in the X-joint be enlarged to allow for larger bolts? Will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbymogs Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 If he's still building it how can the results be good? Good results from a truck still in build? sounds Extreeeeeme! B) Can the holes in the X-joint be enlarged to allow for larger bolts? Will. just for the picky good results on his new vehicle that he hasnt long finished building but is constantly finding things to improve as i think we all are 1st time out 3rd in class 6th overall 2nd time out 1st in class 2nd overall not bad for a unfinished vehicle as you put it B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrik Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 Did you had a look at http://www.aurorabearing.com/? rgds Hendrik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydiesel Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 An A frame ball joint works very well as does the bottom ball joint off a 3 ton transit, my personal preferance though is a ballistic fabs 3" joint, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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