1965 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 hello everybody , anybody know anything about sva. over the last six months or so i've been running my 90 as a rolling project , in june last year it was mot'd with a new chassis , during the mot the tester did'nt record the chassis swap or the number ( it do'es have one ) , i then taxed it and used it when i could , during the next few months further work was carried out including truck cab , suspension upgrade etc . then 3 weeks ago i converted it to 200tdi , while i was doing the engine someone mentioned there was'nt a lot left of the original landrover . it suddenly struck me i could have a problem . iv'e tryed to look on the internet for sva info , but to be honest i'm new to computers and the only thing i can find is a reference to a points system , if ( and i mean if ) i understand it correctly i could be ok , but i'm wondering what should i do , and should i say something at the next mot . by the way , ive known the mot tester for years and i find it hard to believe he's made a mistake , he's well know for being strict , thats why i go to him , you know your landrover will pass any test if he's past it . i've got a nagging doubt that all is not well , i don't mind doing the right thing , but i need to know what that is . any help would be very welcome and would at least point me in the right direction . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
western Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 These might help SVA SVA Fees SVA Test Stations Items tested Good Luck :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 thanks for that western but these are the one's i've checked , they don't seam to give any details , don't really want to email them incase i open a big can off worm's . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Have a look at VOSA's website for definative SVA info - (they are the people who run the scheme) also talk to the DVLA local office for advice The SVA test isn't as bad a people think, honest B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 thanks for the info landrover 598 , that looks like it could give me more help . the trouble is there's no detail , it mentions rebuild vehicles but doe'snt say what that means . it can't mean every landrover that has a new chassis that would be hundreds of vehicles per year . if it dos'nt mean chassis then all i need to worry about is the engine upgrade . i'll probebly end up asking them . bye the way , have you under gone the test . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover598 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 If its been rebuilt then the 8 point system applies, If it's radically modified (i.e. hybrid etc) then the 8 point system no longer applies and it's automatic SVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 To be honest I don't think you need to worry about an SVA - from what you've said, you've rebuilt / restored the vehicle using like for like... the only major unit that isn't new or from the original car is the engine. The fact that it's got a new chassis is actually a plus point - if you'd used a second hand item, you would have had issues with the identity of the vehicle (DVLA run a points system to determine what identity the vehicle should have). At the most, a VIC (Vehicle Identity Check) may be in order at your local VOSA test station - but I'm not convinced of that either. What I would be worried about is the fact that the chassis isn't stamped with a number - it should be really - if nothing else for your benefit (what happens if the truck gets nicked - how does it get identified?) Personally, I'd make sure you have documented everything you've done, and kept receipts (esp for the chassis and engine - with the unit number recorded on it), inform DVLA of the change of engine number / cc / fuel type etc as applicable and go from there. If needs be, get in touch with your local VRO and/or VOSA test station and run it by them. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 the chassis has a number printed on it , but it's very short ( can't remember without looking ) , if what you've said is correct i should be ok , i'll inform dvla of the changes , and speak to the local sva station , thanks for the help . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 IF you want to be 100% LEGAL: 1. If you have used a NEW Chassis, and have a reciept from a Manufactuer of Chassis then ok. 2. If you have used a new "Secondhand Chassis" then to be 100% legal it is SVA time. Which one are you 1 or 2 ? Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 number 1 , thank god , brand new from the manufacturer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid_From_Hell Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 The you are ok, no probs contact the LVRO Office and talk to someone about having the short number on you log book. You Might need to take it to them, alternativly phone DVLA and talk to them. If you look on the website it says about a new chassis from manufactuer as 100% ok Both DVLA and VRO do have trainee cretins, don't put up with them, get to speak to someone who knows what they are talking about, not a spotty 17 year old wif attitude Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 When i built my 90 (from second hand chassis up) i had to have an SVA test. it started when i was going to use a 110 logbook i had kicking around, and i sent it off to get ot changed from "110" to "90", that alerted them and they got in contact. my local office is Bristol, if you ring the DVLA there and ask for Dave rogers, he came and did the examinations (i had 4) but he's a dead helpful chap. he explained that if i had a *new* chassis with reciept, then the vehicle would have (say, at the current moment) an 06 registration. when i built mine (4 years ago) it would have been 02. but as i couldn't prove mine was new (in hindsight,and with a little ,ahem, "advice" from the inspector, i would have "aquired" a reciept) so mine was put on a Q plate. it doesn't bother me at all, and insurance (with the NFU) is no hassle whatsoever. the test was a doddle. rather like a slightly more involved MoT. i was in and out, with paperwork done in 35 minutes. (although a mate, Pete Codd, who did his Ibex, was there for 9 hours!) they don't mind you taking tools and bits with you, so if you need to "adjust" anything you can do it there and then. Plus, going to and from an SVA is the only time you are allowed to drive on the public road without numberplates (as you've not got it registered!) although you do need insurance! and, if they deem your vehicle to be unroadworthy, then you'd shafted... how do you get home again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted March 8, 2006 Author Share Posted March 8, 2006 ok everybody, thanks very much for all your help , i suppose i'd better do the right thing and report the changes , i think i would be better putting the standard suspension back on aswell , at least the only real change is then the engine . the chassis dos'nt sound like a big deal . a bit stupid of me not to think of all this while i was doing it , still you live and learn . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Neale Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Plus, going to and from an SVA is the only time you are allowed to drive on the public road without numberplates Not quite true Jim.... Same applies to "personal" (aka Grey) imports. You are allowed to drive the from point of import to home address without plates - must have appropriate insurance tho'.... Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR90 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 When i built my 90 (from second hand chassis up) i had to have an SVA test.it started when i was going to use a 110 logbook i had kicking around, and i sent it off to get ot changed from "110" to "90", that alerted them and they got in contact. my local office is Bristol, if you ring the DVLA there and ask for Dave rogers, he came and did the examinations (i had 4) but he's a dead helpful chap. he explained that if i had a *new* chassis with reciept, then the vehicle would have (say, at the current moment) an 06 registration. when i built mine (4 years ago) it would have been 02. but as i couldn't prove mine was new (in hindsight,and with a little ,ahem, "advice" from the inspector, i would have "aquired" a reciept) so mine was put on a Q plate. it doesn't bother me at all, and insurance (with the NFU) is no hassle whatsoever. the test was a doddle. rather like a slightly more involved MoT. i was in and out, with paperwork done in 35 minutes. (although a mate, Pete Codd, who did his Ibex, was there for 9 hours!) they don't mind you taking tools and bits with you, so if you need to "adjust" anything you can do it there and then. Plus, going to and from an SVA is the only time you are allowed to drive on the public road without numberplates (as you've not got it registered!) although you do need insurance! and, if they deem your vehicle to be unroadworthy, then you'd shafted... how do you get home again! Jim, did you stick with the 110 logbook though or go for a new one? Only I'd rather like to swap my disapearing 109 chassis with a NEW NEW 88 chassis. On points it looks ok, keeping reg number and tax excempt status but I just feel sort of uneasy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B reg 90 Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I'm not sure what your worring about. You have just over a peroid of time carried out some maintenace on your vehicle. This has included changing some worn out components with 'like for like' replacements. The only change from the original spec is the 200TDI, which was an offical upgrade from land rover. One of the land rover regs recently had an artical about this. An example was the test case over a Bently called 'old number one'. Anyway it was a racing bentley that had been extensively 'maintained' over it's racing career meaning that over time the vast majority of the major components had been replaced. It was deemed to still be the same vehicle as it was 'rolling maintenace' that would be expected in a racing car. My 90 has had a replacement chassis by the last owner. I've fitted a 200TDI, then a bit later changed the gearbox, then changed the rear axle to a disk braked unit and later still junked the hard top for a truck cab. I'm about to carry out some more maintenance and change the wings, seat box and back tub and fit a soft top. It's not going to go for a identiy check or an SVA! I will however inform the DVLA that it's a soft top and that the colours changed. Any MOT man who manages to tell the difference between a 20 year old body and one slightly newer and straighter body will be doing well. Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diesel_jim Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Jim,did you stick with the 110 logbook though or go for a new one? Only I'd rather like to swap my disapearing 109 chassis with a NEW NEW 88 chassis. On points it looks ok, keeping reg number and tax excempt status but I just feel sort of uneasy about it. Initially i wanted to keep the 110 logbook (and have it modified by the DVLA) but in the end they issued me with a complete new logbook (V5) and the old 110 one i had just seemed to "dissapear" in the black hole of the DVLA. i suppose i should have (or still can?) re-apply for it, as it was theoretically still in my name, and eventhough i've not got the physical vehicle anymore, i didn't tell them that i was "scrapping" it, so thats theft isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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