simonr Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I've been asked to write an engineers report for an insurance company - since I have the appropriate professional qualification. This is for someone with a modified 90 - which has quite a lot of X-Eng in it - hence asking me! However, I have no idea what it needs to contain! The insurance company thinks that since I'm an Engineer - I will automatically know! I don't remember that ever being mentioned on my course though. I dare say I'll have to produce something for my Electric Freelander too (which moved for the first time last night!) Any ideas on headings, sections, content, format - that kind of thing would be brilliant! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q-rover Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 (edited) I would imagine that if it is for an insurance company, that they want to know that all the bits boltet on are up to spec and will in no way affect the vehicle adversely. They probably would like some details of relavant testing or a CofC signed by your goodself. Edited July 7, 2009 by geoffbeaumont Edited to remove joke which was in extremely poor taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I recently provided the DVLA with an engineers report. They seemed quite happy with it. It went something like this: My Address, 21st June 2009 Ref: VEHICLE REG NUMBER To whom it may concern, The vehicle with the above registration mark has been fitted with blah blah blah... The work has been carried out using/by/whom etc and has been finished to a roadworthy standard. If there are any questions relating to the above vehicle, please don’t hesitate to contact me. Yours faithfully, Name BEng (Hons.) MEng (Hons.) PhD EOoW IEEE IMarEST IMechE etc... Company name, Position. Of course, laid out correctly. As you have the XEng thing too...might be worth putting it on headed paper. It seems that as we are engineers, we are above suspicion, and our word is gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty_wingnut Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 they will want to know function of each bolt on part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonr Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 Thanks for your help. I understood what the report was for - just wanted to know if there was a preferred format. But I think James has hit the nail on the head! Cheers, SI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeagent Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 It seems that as we are engineers, we are above suspicion, and our word is gospel. ROFL... I couldn't agree more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hmmmm, Interesting: that as I have Engineer in my job title, and letters after my name, I could do the same? Engineer covers so many things these days, including those who fix washing machines to those who write computer programmes (and those lucky few who get to play with proper engineering all day ) Iain Ellis MPWI Principal Permanent Way Engineer, Mott MacDonald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbarton Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I had one for my LPG conversion. Basically the guy just said at the time of inspection it was mounted correctly and all joints & fixings were secure. He added the phrase "without prejudice" to escape any liablility if it went bang. I don't know if this would have any bearing in law though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hmmmm,Interesting: that as I have Engineer in my job title, and letters after my name, I could do the same? Engineer covers so many things these days, including those who fix washing machines to those who write computer programmes (and those lucky few who get to play with proper engineering all day ) Iain Ellis MPWI Principal Permanent Way Engineer, Mott MacDonald Common as muck these Motts Engineers.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro_Al Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I've been asked to write an engineers report for an insurance company - since I have the appropriate professional qualification. Just out of interest - what is the 'appropriate qualification? - could someone with a civil engineering degree provide one, for example??? I dare say I'll have to produce something for my Electric Freelander too (which moved for the first time last night!) I dare say you won't. I don't think anyone would accept a report by the same engineer who had an interest in the vehicle working. I know NFU won't for a start. Al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithjh Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Hmmmm,Interesting: that as I have Engineer in my job title, and letters after my name, I could do the same? Engineer covers so many things these days, including those who fix washing machines to those who write computer programmes (and those lucky few who get to play with proper engineering all day ) Iain Ellis MPWI Principal Permanent Way Engineer, Mott MacDonald Oh my God a P-Way spanner ---ker The bane of my life--- Operations Manager Network Rail Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Oh my God a P-Way spanner ---ker The bane of my life--- Operations Manager Network Rail Keith Hell hath no fury like a consultant with access to Connect ... bl**dy thromboses ... Common as muck these Motts Engineers.......... So where are you then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 So where are you then? Bishbosh - Man your work email is out of date! mm-bris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRecklessEngineer Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I dare say I'll have to produce something for my Electric Freelander too (which moved for the first time last night!) I missed that bit. Sounds intriguing....details? Photos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Bishbosh - Man your work email is out of date! mm-bris? Where are you finding that? My email is the InterRoute one on the system.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob90 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Oh my God a P-Way spanner ---ker The bane of my life--- Operations Manager Network Rail Keith grrrrrrr im a signaller bluddy om's and p-way the lot off you just go away and let me watch my .................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbocharger Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Si, Be careful. If you sign it off as safe and up to or exceeding OE spec (think asymmetric brake calipers) and then the vehicle has an accident, they'll come knocking and you'll be thinking about retrospective professional liability insurance. If you do put anything in writing, be sure to specify exactly the parts that you're certifying and detail their fitment, orientation and fitness for a particular function - this covers you against 'user error' eg horrid side snatch loadings to a perfectly adequate static recovery point. In terms of format, I'd specify the vehicle reg no, chassis number and body type and then detail the modifications by description and with photographs, talk about the likely loadings and then describe your opinion of the suitability of the design, with a little bit of maths in an appendix to show that the design of a modified part is suitable for a representative load case. Then move on to the next modified component, and conclude with a summary of the mods and a caveat that all your calcs are +/- 100% and that you don't accept any responsibility for material error, failure or injury thereafter. Me, I wouldn't touch it for someone I didn't know, sorry. Cheers John MEng(Hons) etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat_pending Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 I worked for a Garage where we did engineers reports on modified/high performance vehicles for insurance companies. We stopped doing them as it became obvious the people reading them had no understanding of what was written, and the potential liability issues outweighed the small profit. All the reports were a "Visual inspection only". The vehicle. The modifications. The standard of general workmanship. Probably the most important, but most contentious issue is the suitability of parts or modifications, it's this that will always be open to interpretation and requires a degree of knowledge from the reports reader. I would have thought that most insurance companies would only accept reports from IAEA (Institute of automotive engineer assessors) members. IMO, anything else is not worth the paper it's written on, no matter how qualified you are. Pat, MIMI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_d Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Is there any indication of what the insurance company want the report for? I ask because it is likely all they need to know is what mods have been done or parts fitted so that they can asses their liability in respect to a claim for loss or damage. It may be that they are not interested in the stress analysis side of things. A report of all the parts/mods that deviate from a standard vehicle plus a generalised report on the standard of workmanship may be all they require. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Where are you finding that?My email is the InterRoute one on the system.... It's on your member profile: [ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderzander Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 For liability could you not treat it like an MOT?, ie state it was fine in your opinion on the day of inspection. I presume if this kind of thing was required more often or was requiring great detail, or a higher level of authority, then we'd all be only buying parts from companies that provided a report with each part they sold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishbosh Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 It's on your member profile:[ Ah! That's not email - that's ICQ or whatever.... Not that I ever use it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
errol209 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Ah! That's not email - that's ICQ or whatever.... Not that I ever use it..... You have company email, but the Dobbie the Outlook Elf says you won't get it for a bit ... Small world, innit ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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