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Once i finish making my new shock mounts, relocation cones, turrets, bracketry etc, i'd like to get them coated to stop them rusting.What type of finish is best ? What do you use ? Where do you get them done ?

Options so far i can think of :-

Galv

Powder

Passivated

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Once i finish making my new shock mounts, relocation cones, turrets, bracketry etc, i'd like to get them coated to stop them rusting.What type of finish is best ? What do you use ? Where do you get them done ?

Options so far i can think of :-

Galv

Powder

Passivated

gold/straw passivate is nice, but is apparently classed as 'highly toxic' ! oo'er

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Galv would get my vote. Minivin likes powder and Mandy would I guess want chav chrome for the bling effect.

I think Nige was getting his brackets passivated. Be interrested to know why this might be better than galv.

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when i bought my mach 5's i paid extra for the 'gold passivate' coating but within a few months the wheels were covered in surface rust.

I rang the supplier and was told that passivating isnt a 'final' finish.

i always thought it was, which is why i paid the extra. i would be interested to hear if anyone else has had this (i do live on a farm and wonder if some of the 'muck' i drive through caused this)

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I haven't found passivating to be a very long lasting robust finish, unlike galv.

Power coating is nice when new, but any chips etc and then water gets under a lifts it, also not as easy to touch up as paint.

I would paint or galv.

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The best, longest lasting, most abrasion resistant is dip galvonizing - but it changes the shape of things (warps), closes up holes

, bungs up threads and reduces the overall tolerance of a part.

Next is spin galvonizing where the part is dipped and centriguged so only a thn coating of zinc remains - but it is very even and does not have most of the tolerance issues above.

Next comes electroplating and zinc passivate. This has poor abrasion resistance and is only really suitable for parts not in direct contact with mud etc. The coating is very thin so the tolerance is pretty much unchanged.

Powder coating is very tough and abrasion resistant (compared to paint), but once water gets underneath - it just wicks it all over the place and it very soon turns to a bag of rust.

An improvement is zinc sprayed & powder coat. In this case, liquid metal is sprayed on to the surface of the part prior to powder coating. It gives a good surface for the plastic to adhere to and protects from rust even if the surface is broken. Trouble is, it's expensive. This is what my wing bars and winch bumper are coated in.

The X-Brakes are coated in Zinc passivate which is not the best - but people associate it with bling and quality. I had some spin galvanised - and nobody wanted them! Two were returned as they wanted the yellow finish??? I sprayed them in yellow laquer (which looks similar) and sent them out again! There are five out there where the coating will last for ever!

Any suspension components we make (two planned) will be spin galvanised.

Hope this helps a bit.

Si

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Thanks for that, very informative B)

I found out when i had my chassis dipped that the holes get filled up, but just need drilling out, and i suppose threads can be re-tapped

Not too concerened about overall tollerances, after all, I made the parts :lol:

I'm hoping that the warping shouldn't be too much of a problem, as all the parts are made from 6mm,

when my chassis was dipped, some of the 2mm brackets bent slightly, all the 6mm cage mounts were unafected though.

Not heard of spin galving before, sounds intersting. I'll ask if they do it at the galving depot down the road

Thanks again

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Spun galv is most commonly used for fasteners.

I agree with Simon - hot dipping is the way to go.

Plate thickness isn't necessarily the cause of warping. It is normally the release of built in stresses from welding (a galv bath is about 450 degrees C IIRC). A heavily welded item is more likely to warp than a less welded item.

Having said that, if the item is designed with dipping in mind you can usually get around this.

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Next is spin galvonizing where the part is dipped and centriguged so only a thn coating of zinc remains - but it is very even and does not have most of the tolerance issues above.

sounds good , what is the largest piece they can do?

also is the cost size related or input related..?

could you pm me yor post code?

TIA

Lawrence

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i don't like that gold finish, as everything i've bought with it on has lasted about 3 months... but i think part of the problem (especially with cheap stuff like steering and diff guards) is the metal is not cleaned or preped properly before coating, things should be spotless, ideally acid dipped, not just wiped with a rag soaked in thinners..

i reckon hot dip galv is the way to go... but i like either powder coat or stove enamel aswell...

..and some epoxy paint finishes are pretty bullet proof, might be good over the 'gold carp'

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Just got my axle case doing. Would have liked hot dip galv but filling the thing with galv didn't seem like a good idea. Had it grit blasted and hot zinc powder coated in the end which seemed like a good compromise. Certianly looks a lot less scabby now with the zinc powder and black gloss overcoats :D

Looking fwd to getting it built up and on the truck.

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Sorry to tell you this, but you are all wrong. There is only one coating system worth considering for Land Rovers... It has magical qualities, and will double the value of your vehicle overnight. Add to that, the chap putting it on is fabulous at customer service (Si, you could learn so much here...), a brilliant engineer, and a fabulous communicator. It's so, good in fact, that there are forum threads especially to sing it's praises.

Magic coating discussion thread

:rolleyes::ph34r:

[Tin hat on]

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Sorry to tell you this, but you are all wrong. There is only one coating system worth considering for Land Rovers... It has magical qualities, and will double the value of your vehicle overnight. Add to that, the chap putting it on is fabulous at customer service (Si, you could learn so much here...), a brilliant engineer, and a fabulous communicator. It's so, good in fact, that there are forum threads especially to sing it's praises.

Magic coating discussion thread

:rolleyes::ph34r:

[Tin hat on]

so much so my works firewall considers it pornographic content, sounds like it's sexed-up to me :ph34r:

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Whatever you do don't "Orange Coat" them

This coating seems to structurally alter the metal, weakens ALL components which then fail early in their working life.

I know this is true, so many people have found it the case :D

Nige

indeed :lol:

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