Micky-Disco Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 How long would you think it would take a Land Rover Specialist garage to change a timing belt? Just wanna see if the one I called is taking the P as I think I could do it in half the time, and I'm no mechanic lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 300Tdi - about 2-hours if all goes well. 200TDi about 2 1/2 to 3 hours if all goes well. I believe dealers quote for 4-hours labour?, so I guess they would sting you about £4-500 Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K88 MUD Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 It it was our garage we always give a price + the parts......its normaly the 200's that can be a PITA but ours are £150 for a 300 and £200 for a 200tdi all plus your parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipx2 Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 The repair time by the book is aprox 3 hours for a 300tdi (+ 9 min if it has AC). Plus 9 mins fixed allowance (get the car in/out etc). So roughly 3.15-3.3 hours. Complications are extra (rusted bolts etc). Multiply this with what they charge an hour and you get the labor cost. It doesn't matter if they (or you) can do it in 3 mins or it will take 3 years, you'll be charged that fixed amount given by the book (plus the potential complications if any). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 That's a very reasonable price, K88MUD . Do you replace tensioner/idler, etc as part of the job? Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 well I got quoted the best part of £400 and they said that was for 7 hours labour :S I was told it may not be quite that long, but with it being an older car it might be... Thought it seemed long... Wish you were a bit closer K88 MUD Cheers everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 You could do the job yourself - buy the tools necessary to do it and still save a packet. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 You could do the job yourself - buy the tools necessary to do it and still save a packet. This is very true - plus next time you already have the tools. I believe there is a full guide in the tech archive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 We thought about doin it ourselves, me and my step dad, as he has done some before, just if something went wrong, I dont have cash to replace anything. Had a quote from a garage I had my hilux belt done at, they quoted £230 to replace timing belt plus the alt belt, and that included the belt. The timing belt from them tho is £47, and belt kit £140 I can get a kit from some places for around £30, so gonna see if they will fit a kit I buy, fingers crossed cheers y'all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 It's pretty - much a golden rule that you replace the kit. Buy the kit yourself and then just get a price on fitting it if you don't fancy doing it yourself. Les. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeFreezer Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 The timing belt from them tho is £47, and belt kit £140 I can get a kit from some places for around £30 A cheap kit may not be the best idea, especially if it's Britpart junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 3, 2009 Author Share Posted November 3, 2009 Can somebody point me towards a good kit?? not oooo expensive, but better quality..tried and test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Henson Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Bearmach supply a complete kit for a 300TDi. The belt is Dayco, which is a genuine item. You get belt, tensioner, idler, gaskets, and crank sprocket, which is better than the original item. The only part you need to get seperately is the timing cover dust seal and the crankshaft front oil seal (if you need it). How to do it yourself http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=6943 Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobyone Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 why dont you buy the kit and ring a mobile mechanic!! some are cowboys and you will know buy the price or burble they say to you. but find a good one and he will be fairly cheap, plus he should have insurance if he is a proper mobile business... would be cheaper. besides,someone correct me if this is wrong,but if the belt swap was off on timing you would only be looking at a bent push rod or two and they are not expensive to buy, and you just whip off the rocker cover and rocker shaft to replace them. i would do it yourself with your old man. you will feel more confident with these engines and you will save a packet. and like i said, the pushrods are still cheap, so if you replace a few, you will still be quids in doing it on your own. be brave, and soon you will have no more stuff to do on your disco. richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 Thanks Mobyone, seriously considering doing it ourselves now. Just out of curiousity, are there any parts that a normally a pain to get off. I used to have a 300zx twin turbo, and could I get the crank nut loose, nope!! Just dont wanna strip the landy down and get stuck lol, so if anyone can think of anything, then I can be prepared, have tools ready just in case etc etc.... I also read I need 2 timing pins, are these daft prices?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsu0san Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 If you mean a pin to put into the fuel pump then you can use a 9.5mm drill bit. The timing pin for the flywheel is not really needed. Just keep an eye on the marker on the flywheel and you should be OK. Les has done the cam belt tutorial (linked above) and it's a fairly easy and painless job to do. Disconnect the battery when you do it though. You don't want the engine turning over if a spanner falls onto the starter when the belt is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 6, 2009 Author Share Posted November 6, 2009 cool cheers for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhollings Posted November 6, 2009 Share Posted November 6, 2009 fitted this kit the last one i did (no britpart stuff) http://www.land-rover-parts-shop.com/shop/lrps/en/browse/Search+Results/none/0/0/0/0/100295 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 fitted this kit the last one i did (no britpart stuff) http://www.land-rover-parts-shop.com/shop/lrps/en/browse/Search+Results/none/0/0/0/0/100295 Thats great cheers, nice price too.... That listing is for defender 300Tdi tho, are they the same as the disco 300Tdi?? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinhollings Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 i fitted it to a disco with no problems but i have found this kit while trying to comfirm the part numbers that is a better price (with the same part number and look like the same kit) http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/timing-belt-modified-stc4096l-p-2345.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Nice one, cheers fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Which crankshaft oil seals do i need to go with that kit?? 3 on this page http://www.island-4x4.co.uk/discovery-9498-engine-parts-c-10_60.html?page=2&sort=3a is it the front inner and the front outer or...??? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 Which crankshaft oil seals do i need to go with that kit?? Theres 3 on this page http://www.island-4x...?page=2&sort=3a is it the front inner and the front outer or...??? Also i have seen these kicking about, what are they for?? Yes I am a newbie lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobyone Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 does not matter which landy it is from, it is the engine which the kit is for, so yes, the defender 300tdi kit is the same kit. there are no real suprises on these engines except some left had threads. but for the timing belt kit, i dont remember any real problems. be careful to not damage the front face of the case though, as it is watertight when the gasket meets it. and dont overtighten and crack it either... no real stumbling blocks though. just keep the brews flowing and have a step to stand on on the drivers side by the front wheel or you will feel it on your back, and mark the timings with a white pen if you cant see them. i reckon, first time doing this you will take at least a morning or an afternoon. but hey, thats half the fun. when you get it back together, if it doesn't start or runs odd, you probably got the fuel pump timing out. have fun... richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky-Disco Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 does not matter which landy it is from, it is the engine which the kit is for, so yes, the defender 300tdi kit is the same kit. there are no real suprises on these engines except some left had threads. but for the timing belt kit, i dont remember any real problems. be careful to not damage the front face of the case though, as it is watertight when the gasket meets it. and dont overtighten and crack it either... no real stumbling blocks though. just keep the brews flowing and have a step to stand on on the drivers side by the front wheel or you will feel it on your back, and mark the timings with a white pen if you cant see them. i reckon, first time doing this you will take at least a morning or an afternoon. but hey, thats half the fun. when you get it back together, if it doesn't start or runs odd, you probably got the fuel pump timing out. have fun... richard Thats great cheers, just wanting my confidence boosting, and its working lol If the fuel pump timing did end up slightly out, is that hard to sort?? Just wanna make sure I have all the tools ready, as I cannot afford my car to be off the road... So need to have everything ready Cheers again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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